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MikeDeTiger

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9086 on: November 14, 2023, 10:12:44 AM »
Can't tell if you've always been this cynical or if I'm just now noticing it.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9087 on: November 14, 2023, 10:30:27 AM »
I'm pretty cynical about a lot of things.  This I suppose is a kind of pet peave of mine.

It's so predictable.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9088 on: November 14, 2023, 10:43:11 AM »
My guess is some of these folks are serious about it, I suspect most are "along for the ride". 
On a private jet, no doubt.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9089 on: November 14, 2023, 11:00:05 AM »
On a private jet, no doubt.

Lolz, ever heard Bill Gates' answer when he was asked about constantly being on a private jet while constantly lecturing everyone about the environment?  Priceless, and very telling.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9090 on: November 14, 2023, 11:05:12 AM »
He's buying up farmland and not farming it.

He wants us to eat bugs for protein.

A real leader steps up to the plate.

You're up, Bill.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9091 on: November 14, 2023, 11:21:39 AM »
I don't worry as much about the obvious hypocrites, we always have them.  I am concerned with the "throw money at it" without any plan issue, and when that doesn't work, the solution is to throw more money at it.

Sounds like education.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9092 on: November 14, 2023, 06:08:32 PM »
The National Climate Assessment, which comes out every four to five years, was released Tuesday with details that bring climate change’s impacts down to a local level. Unveiling the report at the White House, President Joe Biden blasted Republican legislators and his predecessor for disputing global warming.

“Anyone who willfully denies the impact of climate change is condemning the American people to a very dangerous future. Impacts are only going to get worse, more frequent, more ferocious and more costly,” Biden said, noting that disasters cost the country $178 billion last year. “None of this is inevitable.”


Overall, Tuesday’s assessment paints a picture of a country warming about 60% faster than the world as a whole, one that regularly gets smacked with costly weather disasters and faces even bigger problems in the future.

https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-future-warming-disasters-america-a419265bb733adcb7c62b4111028aa0c

Since 1970, the Lower 48 states have warmed by 2.5 degrees (1.4 degrees Celsius) and Alaska has heated up by 4.2 degrees (2.3 degrees Celsius), compared to the global average of 1.7 degrees (0.9 degrees Celsius), the report said. But what people really feel is not the averages, but when weather is extreme.

With heat waves, drought, wildfire and heavy downpours, “we are seeing an acceleration of the impacts of climate change in the United States,” said study co-author Zeke Hausfather of the tech company Stripe and Berkeley Earth.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9093 on: November 15, 2023, 06:23:39 AM »
Disasters are not inevitable?  Who knew?

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9094 on: November 15, 2023, 08:11:56 AM »
Wildfires have nothing to do with climate.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9095 on: November 15, 2023, 08:18:45 AM »
Obviously, we never had them, or hurricanes, or tornados, or droughts, before climate change, apparently.

This is a recurring trend in reporting, and claims by politicians.  "We're not DOING ENOUGH!!!!"  Disaster awaits."

A realistic treatment of the topic is tough to find.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9096 on: November 15, 2023, 10:00:14 AM »
US, China agree to bolster renewables in effort to replace fossil fuels  | The Hill
US, China agree to bolster renewables in effort to replace fossil fuels  | The Hill

Malarkey.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9097 on: November 15, 2023, 10:13:21 AM »
The National Climate Assessment, which comes out every four to five years, was released Tuesday with details that bring climate change’s impacts down to a local level. Unveiling the report at the White House, President Joe Biden blasted Republican legislators and his predecessor for disputing global warming.

“Anyone who willfully denies the impact of climate change is condemning the American people to a very dangerous future. Impacts are only going to get worse, more frequent, more ferocious and more costly,” Biden said, noting that disasters cost the country $178 billion last year. “None of this is inevitable.”
What blisterhead Brandon and whom ever is pulling his strings ignores is Russia/China/India are not doing a damn thing. And going forward with his policies just lines their pockets and other failed faffers like  Kerry and Gore who BTW as of two yrs ago didn't have solar panels and still flew private Jets. Kerry a previous failed flip-flopper said it was his wife's.Of course he had no comeback when asked why he isn't lecturing her instead of the 99% of Americans who don't have their own wings parked in the garage 
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9098 on: November 15, 2023, 11:00:04 AM »
China and India agreed to start cutting back in 2030, so it's in their interest to generate as much CO2 now to set a high baseline.  Of course, if  they don't in fact cut in 2030, there is no penalty.  Any country can commit to X and then ignore X all they want.

It's just TALK, though some will throw a lot of money at the problem.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9099 on: November 15, 2023, 11:01:25 AM »
What blisterhead Brandon and whom ever is pulling his strings ignores is Russia/China/India are not doing a damn thing.
Not sure if you've noticed... America/Europe are not doing a damn thing either. We're talking about what we should do, but we're not actually doing it. 

 

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