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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9030 on: October 17, 2023, 09:31:13 AM »
we call it football weather
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9031 on: October 17, 2023, 04:02:27 PM »
I know. I was talking about the system itself. We have the Mississippi system and the TVA system.
On your original post, transportation by barge is incredibly more efficient than by train, at least for bulk commodities which make up the vast majority of barge traffic. Even including dredging expenses and fuel consumption. I don’t have the figures but the difference is significant. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9032 on: October 18, 2023, 07:46:45 AM »
We don't have the numbers.

And yes, I'm biased. I'm against (almost) all dams and levees. They give a false sense of security to humans and are very bad for the environment.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9035 on: October 25, 2023, 06:06:59 AM »
The MSM coverage of such things is "interesting".  If some weather event is dramatic, they cover it, in spades, fine, but they rarely if ever go back and note "Hey, that was huge, but atypical, we're just not seeing a trend here."

So, the Arctic ice cap was melting and heading to disaster a few years ago.  Seen any news about that of late anywhere?

Hurricanes were projected to be numerous and devastating.  So, they cover the latest disastrous hurricane, fine, but don't add any context about longer term trends.  Droughts, same thing.  Heat waves, you name it.  They selectively cover the disasters without adding context.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9036 on: October 25, 2023, 08:08:45 AM »
^^^

It's all part of the plan.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9037 on: October 25, 2023, 08:13:47 AM »
I think "the plan" is to attract clicks and eyeballs and $$$.


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9038 on: October 25, 2023, 09:13:13 AM »
Speaking of hurricanes, Hurricane Otis in the Pacific just made landfall in Acapulco, Mexico as as completely unexpected Cat5, it blew up by 110 mph in less than 24 hours.

That's a pretty big city, around 1M people.  And they're up against the mountains, which are expected to turn into unstable mudslides, so there was really nowhere to go, even if they'd had much warning.

I expect today's pictures to be pretty rough.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9039 on: October 25, 2023, 09:33:08 AM »
I've never been. What would an evacuation look like? They had so little time.

Not much in the way of media coverage out there right now.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9040 on: October 25, 2023, 09:37:54 AM »
Hurricane Otis makes landfall in Mexico as a Cat 5; Tammy eyes Bermuda (accuweather.com)

I don't know if it's related to the new coverage item above, but I seem to think Pacific hurricanes are more common today?

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9041 on: October 25, 2023, 09:46:16 AM »
Hurricane Otis makes landfall in Mexico as a Cat 5; Tammy eyes Bermuda (accuweather.com)

I don't know if it's related to the new coverage item above, but I seem to think Pacific hurricanes are more common today?
Don't know that answer. There is not a reliable information out there on Eastern Pacific hurricanes prior to the 1980's or so.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9042 on: October 25, 2023, 10:46:10 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9043 on: October 25, 2023, 10:47:39 AM »
I watched some cliff diving in Acapulco back 20+ years ago with the Ex-wife

we stayed at the hotel on the cliff - was quite something I'm glad I traveled for 
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