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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8806 on: August 22, 2023, 10:24:14 AM »
The projections are in the 2-3 feet range, by 2100, and maybe I buy that, as a projection.  I certainly hope it's less.  I just wonder what sort of human habitation would have been built where less than a foot makes it awful.

If you're that close to sea level, you'd be getting swamped with even moderate storms anyway, without any CC.

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« Reply #8807 on: August 22, 2023, 11:28:32 AM »
Highlights. Global average sea level has risen 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880. In 2021, global sea level set a new record high—97 mm (3.8 inches) above 1993 levels.

I'm surprised that less than a foot means whole towns are in trouble.


I'm guessing the government buildings in that town were due for an upgrade.
Many reservations have these needs.
the article says this particular street has been flooding for some time.
I'd guess this one street or two are really in trouble presently.
But, looking to the future, it's wise to get started while there's government funds floating around, like COVID funds.

Probably shouldn't have built that street there in the first place.
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« Reply #8808 on: August 22, 2023, 11:32:22 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8809 on: August 22, 2023, 11:40:19 AM »
Interesting read. Well, at least for me. And maybe @GopherRock since he did some survey work in the past.

Monuments Going Up in Smoke - The American Surveyor (amerisurv.com)
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8810 on: August 22, 2023, 11:43:53 AM »
I've done some survey work in the past

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8811 on: August 22, 2023, 11:49:06 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8812 on: August 22, 2023, 12:17:50 PM »
I can appreciate that some villages were built in an area we now understand was too low.  And some places like New Orleans were built on areas that have sunk because of lack of flooding.  Maybe they were OK back in the day, but now ... not.

I've seen beach cottages built in the wrong place and the island basically shifts south leaving them in the water.

Cincinnati had some bad floods, the city sprung up on a flat spot between hills and a river, what now is called the Mill Creek Valley, the Mill Creek also floods, still.  There is even one dam on it, making a nice lake, for us anyway.  When the Ohio floods, the Mill Creek is dammed near the river and then pumped over said dam.  They won't be moving Cincy, or NO, any time soon.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8813 on: August 22, 2023, 12:26:16 PM »
Interesting read. Well, at least for me. And maybe @GopherRock since he did some survey work in the past.

Monuments Going Up in Smoke - The American Surveyor (amerisurv.com)
Interesting indeed. This sort of thing definitely qualifies as a critical thing that no one thinks of until way down the line.

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« Reply #8814 on: August 22, 2023, 12:47:25 PM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8815 on: August 22, 2023, 01:17:42 PM »
Another garbage "editorial" with hand waving, stay tuned for a lot more.

We need better strategies for the approaching climate breaking point  | The Hill
We need better strategies for the approaching climate breaking point  | The Hill

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8816 on: August 22, 2023, 01:58:15 PM »
Another garbage "editorial" with hand waving, stay tuned for a lot more.

We need better strategies for the approaching climate breaking point  | The Hill
We need better strategies for the approaching climate breaking point  | The Hill
I took it differently. It seemed like a lot of what they were talking about was work that is already ongoing.

Over 5 years, IEA projection of renewal energy generation capacity increasing by an amount the size of China's (~18% of world population) total power usage. Massive investments worldwide in renewables. 

Seems to me it was more looking at it from the lens of "it's bad, but we're finally starting to do something about it, and we hope that accelerates". 

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8817 on: August 22, 2023, 02:03:34 PM »
The word for me is "hope".  Hope isn't a plan, hope is just woshing instead of doing.  It's fine to note that some progress is being made, but it would be far better to provide some perspective about it and discuss the new coal plants being built all over and that the rate of CO2 increase is not decreasing.  I find it misleading just to note the renewable generation going in without such perspective.


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8818 on: August 22, 2023, 02:09:17 PM »
I'm interested given that my house was in the eye of the worst hurricane to ever hit Florida.

California's about to get a little windy and very wet.
My son's house took a direct hit from Michael that hit Tyndall AFB in Panama City in 2018. At the time, they were saying that was the strongest recorded storm to ever hit Florida. Am I mistaken?

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8819 on: August 22, 2023, 02:16:58 PM »
The strongest might not have been the worst ...

 

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