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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8694 on: August 16, 2023, 11:28:27 AM »
Depends on the landing spot, strength and size of the storm, of course.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8695 on: August 16, 2023, 11:41:05 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2023, 11:28:27 AM
Depends on the landing spot, strength and size of the storm, of course.
Suffice to say, in Texas, high winds tend to be more of a problem with hurricanes, than do storm surges.  The "Big One" in Galveston 1900 being an exception.

And sure, people build up too much on the barrier islands and then get knocked down when a storm comes through, but I mean, it's a barrier island.  Everyone should understand exactly what that implies.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8696 on: August 16, 2023, 11:43:06 AM »
Yep, Fort Myers Beach is a barrier island. It's not recognizable now and it will never be what it was.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8697 on: August 16, 2023, 11:47:57 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2023, 11:43:06 AM
Yep, Fort Myers Beach is a barrier island. It's not recognizable now and it will never be what it was.
Yeah it's sad but also frustrating at the same time.

There are ways to build on barrier islands that can minimize the damage.  But after a decade or two without a major storm, everyone forgets, and goes back to doing stupid things.  What I don't understand is why insurance companies are even bothering to cover them?  Or maybe they're not?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8698 on: August 16, 2023, 12:13:16 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 16, 2023, 11:41:05 AM
Suffice to say, in Texas, high winds tend to be more of a problem with hurricanes, than do storm surges.  The "Big One" in Galveston 1900 being an exception.

And sure, people build up too much on the barrier islands and then get knocked down when a storm comes through, but I mean, it's a barrier island.  Everyone should understand exactly what that implies.
My family went through Carla in 1961

That storm had a 17 foot tidal surge

Our house was 14 feet above sea level so we had water doorknob high in our home
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8699 on: August 16, 2023, 12:17:24 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 16, 2023, 11:47:57 AM
Yeah it's sad but also frustrating at the same time.

There are ways to build on barrier islands that can minimize the damage.  But after a decade or two without a major storm, everyone forgets, and goes back to doing stupid things.  What I don't understand is why insurance companies are even bothering to cover them?  Or maybe they're not?
In many cases now- they are not.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8700 on: August 16, 2023, 12:27:58 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 16, 2023, 12:17:24 PM
In many cases now- they are not. 
Correct.

Unless you built to a 2' freeboard above the projected 100-year event, you can forget insurance. And new construction is not allowed without that freeboard.

So now, Fort Myers Beach is going to be massive condo towers with parking on the first level (which can be below freeboard), or huge houses on stilts.

It will never be the same. All of those old buildings are either gone or not habitable. Developers are coming in with huge $$$ and scooping up the land.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8701 on: August 16, 2023, 03:32:57 PM »
This one could get interesting for California.



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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8702 on: August 16, 2023, 03:36:25 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2023, 03:32:57 PM
This one could get interesting for California.




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« Reply #8703 on: August 16, 2023, 04:22:03 PM »
From what I'm seeing, it's probably gonna be a little windy and a big rainmaker for CA and maybe even AZ and NV.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8704 on: August 16, 2023, 04:44:43 PM »
Weather.com has the rain starting Sunday during the day... Ugh. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8705 on: August 16, 2023, 04:50:42 PM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8706 on: August 16, 2023, 05:26:24 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2023, 04:22:03 PM
From what I'm seeing, it's probably gonna be a little windy and a big rainmaker for CA and maybe even AZ and NV.
fill up a couple reservoirs and soak down some forests
Climate change solved
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« Reply #8707 on: August 16, 2023, 09:28:20 PM »
the 2023-2024 Snow Forecast

May be an image of map, arctic and text
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