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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8569 on: July 26, 2023, 09:14:10 AM »
still hoping for a breakthrough
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8571 on: July 26, 2023, 10:00:11 AM »
still hoping for a breakthrough
I'm sure we all are.  A RT superconductor would be huge, if the thing is reasonably cheap.  I am slightly encouraged by some of the recent news on fusion though I lean to thinking they are mostly scams.

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« Reply #8572 on: July 26, 2023, 11:32:43 AM »
While it makes for endless dad jokes, it’s a myth that cow farts cause global warming.

Cows actually burp out methane as their complex ruminant digestive systems break down plant materials, explains Dr. Sara Place, an animal science professor at Colorado State University.

Activist groups often blame cattle emissions – or to put it bluntly, cow farts – for climate change. That’s because cows emit methane, a greenhouse gas linked to global warming.

Cattle and other ruminant animals account for about 4% of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, according to the U.S. Environment Protection Agency (EPA).

In comparison, our transportation system — including cars, planes and more — accounts for more than 25.3 percent of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.

Research shows that removing all livestock and poultry from the U.S. food system would only reduce global greenhouse gas emissions by 0.36%, she notes.

Plus, studies have shown that if we eliminated all livestock from U.S. farms, our diets would be deficient in vital nutrients – including high-quality protein, iron and vitamin B12 – that meat provides, Place says.

“People want to act. I don’t doubt the good intentions. People want to make a positive difference,” Place says. “But if somebody does ‘Meatless Mondays,’ they are making no difference at all.”



How has U.S. cattle farming innovated to be more environmentally friendly?
Iowa farmers remain committed to continuous improvement to ensure the safety, nutrition and sustainability of the foods they grow for all.

Specifically, cattle farming in the United States is the most environmentally friendly and sustainable in the world, says Dr. Frank Mitloehner, an animal scientist and air quality specialist at the University of California-Davis.

For example, the U.S. dairy industry’s carbon footprint has shrunk by two-thirds since the 1950s, Mitloehner says.

Cows may still belch, but U.S. farmers are raising fewer cows. Today, there are about 9 million dairy cows in the United States, compared to 25 million dairy cows in 1950. That helps drive down potential greenhouse gas emissions like carbon dioxide and methane.

However, even with much fewer cows, U.S. dairy farms now produce 60% more milk than in 1950 thanks to improvements in farm animal care, sustainability and technology, Mitloehner says.

Also worth noting, while methane is a potent greenhouse gas, it rapidly decays in 12 years, Mitloehner says. In comparison, carbon dioxide – released by burning fossil fuels - lasts in the air for hundreds of years.

So if a cattle farm has existed for 12 years – and many cattle farms in Iowa have operated for generations - those established farms are carbon neutral and aren’t creating any new methane emissions, Mitloehner says.



Is beef a nutritious and sustainably produced food?
As for beef’s role in a sustainable diet, Place explains that cattle are natural “upcyclers.”

Cattle can consume plant material – such as grasses, corn stalks, cottonseed hulls, ethanol byproducts and more – that are inedible to humans because of cattle’s unique ruminant digestive system.

Without cattle, these plant materials would end up in landfills, Place says. And food waste in landfills is one of the biggest sources of greenhouse gas emissions in the United States, according to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

“When you talk about nutrition and sustainability, cattle play a unique role as ruminants in the larger ag and food system,” Place says. “They are taking what we can’t consume and upgrading those resources into high-quality beef.”
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8573 on: July 26, 2023, 12:52:20 PM »
IMHO the issue with talking about cattle, or talking about plant waste in landfills, is that both are part of the natural carbon (and methane) cycle of the earth. 

10,000 years ago, maybe we weren't raising so many cattle, but bison roamed the prairies of North America, eating grasses and (I assume) burping out methane. 

I have full faith the Earth could naturally sink the amounts of CO2 and methane produced by livestock and farming. It's only a problem when it's added on top of all the fossil fuels we're burning that are overwhelming those natural sinks. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8574 on: July 27, 2023, 11:45:33 AM »
It was hotter in the 1930s.  Therefore, one could conclude that it has been cooling off since then.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/not-climate-change-causing-heat-waves-this-summer-explain
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8575 on: July 27, 2023, 03:05:41 PM »
the climate change heatwave finally got to NW Iowa

we've had a mild summer so far, just lack of rain

today expected high of 99

presently it's 91 degrees with 70% humidity

fell like index says 123

I won't be golfing this afternoon
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8576 on: July 27, 2023, 03:08:58 PM »
I'm off for the pool, or maybe, just off.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8577 on: July 29, 2023, 08:14:43 AM »
Nothing in the Atlantic of note so far?  I know "we" were tracking some stuff earlier.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8578 on: July 29, 2023, 09:03:39 AM »
the climate change heatwave finally got to NW Iowa

we've had a mild summer so far, just lack of rain

today expected high of 99

presently it's 91 degrees with 70% humidity

fell like index says 123

I won't be golfing this afternoon
Ha.  We've had that daily since early June.  How cool does it get at night?  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8579 on: July 29, 2023, 09:10:06 AM »
last couple nights only down to the mid 70s

heatwave broke after 3 days

it's 66 degrees now expected high of 83

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8580 on: July 29, 2023, 09:10:37 AM »
Nothing in the Atlantic of note so far?  I know "we" were tracking some stuff earlier.
There's one out there, lobbed from Africa. It will probably get to be a tropical storm. No chance of any US impacts.

They call those "fish storms" around here.


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8581 on: July 29, 2023, 01:33:44 PM »
There’s no such thing as a new nuclear golden age–just old industry hands trying to make a buck
BYSTEPHANIE COOKE
July 28, 2023


https://fortune.com/2023/07/28/no-new-nuclear-golden-age-just-old-industry-hands-trying-to-make-a-buck-energy-politics-stephanie-cooke/

When it comes to costs and schedules, the lack of honesty surrounding nuclear projects is often breathtaking. In Georgia, where two Westinghouse reactors at Vogtle have been under construction since 2009, only one is completed and is now struggling to achieve commercial operation after multiple unplanned reactor and turbine trips, according to recent Georgia Public Service Commission staff testimony. That testimony also included allegations that utility executives have been providing “materially inaccurate” cost estimates over the project’s life. Vogtle’s estimated total $33 billion cost, as outlined in the testimony, versus $13.3 billion originally estimated makes it the most expensive power plant ever built in the United States. Most of the tab is being footed by ratepayers, with the US taxpayer, via DOE, providing $12 billion in loans. 

And still, the messaging that nuclear is a must for reducing emissions goes on at a fever pitch. But the message is distorted: The industry cannot deliver what is needed. The U.S. lost its industrial base, including heavy forging capacity, decades ago–and the costs of a major nuclear buildout could now be in the trillions.
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