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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8428 on: July 18, 2023, 03:35:39 PM »
Mine too.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8429 on: July 18, 2023, 03:51:39 PM »
Are we back to Global Warming again and not just Climate change? I need a program to keep up with the looming disaster that is always predicted to be 10 years away.
I think warming is part of climate change, which is a broader term.  I'm not too worried about any name change.  And the actual IPCC Report doesn't forecast any dramatic disaster a decade out, Orlando won't be a port city, Manhattan won't be under ten feet of water, the usual.  It gets hot in July in the nothern hemisphere, for all we know it may be unusually cold in Antarctica.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8430 on: July 18, 2023, 03:52:57 PM »
This is from 2021 ...

Antarctica's last 6 months were the coldest on record | CNN
Antarctica's last 6 months were the coldest on record | CNN

In a year of extreme heat, Antarctica’s last six months were the coldest on record.
“For the polar darkness period, from April through September, the average temperature was -60.9 degrees Celsius (-77.6 degrees Fahrenheit), a record for those months,” the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) said.
The last six months is also the darkest period at the South Pole, which is where the name polar darkness (also [color=var(--theme-paragraph__link-color)]called polar night)[/url] comes from. Here, the sun sets for the last time around the spring equinox, and does not rise again until near the autumn equinox six months later.[/font][/size][/color]



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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8431 on: July 18, 2023, 03:54:50 PM »
Why is it so damn cold right now? A weather researcher explains (theconversation.com)

From June of this year ...

If you woke up this morning and thought “Gosh, it’s a bit brisk!”, you’re not alone.
Temperatures plummeted across southeast Australia this week, with Weatherzone reporting Canberra’s low of -7.2ºC was “its lowest temperature since 2018 and the lowest for June since 1986.”
Sydney experienced its coldest June morning today since 2010, with a temperature of 5.2ºC. In Victoria, temperatures of -7.2ºC were recorded.



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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8432 on: July 18, 2023, 04:41:23 PM »
I think warming is part of climate change, which is a broader term.  I'm not too worried about any name change.  And the actual IPCC Report doesn't forecast any dramatic disaster a decade out, Orlando won't be a port city, Manhattan won't be under ten feet of water, the usual.  It gets hot in July in the nothern hemisphere, for all we know it may be unusually cold in Antarctica.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/event-tracker/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-early-winter-record-low-june-2023

Antarctic sea ice reaches an early winter record low in June 2023

After reaching a record-low summer minimum earlier this year, Antarctic sea ice continues to break records. In the midst of its winter growth phase, it has reached a record-low extent, far below the previous record, for this time of year.

Data archived by the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) record Antarctic sea ice extent at 4.5 million square miles (11.7 million square kilometers) as of June 27, 2023. That’s nearly a million square miles (2.6 million square kilometers) below the 1981–2010 average, and approaching a half a million square miles (1.2 million square kilometers) below the previous lowest extent for the day, observed in 2022.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8433 on: July 18, 2023, 05:18:07 PM »
There is no ‘new normal’: absent drastic action, the climate will only get worse | The Hill

But science is also clear on what we have to do to find a new normal: stop burning coal, oil and natural gas. When we stop adding CO2 to the atmosphere, global temperatures will stabilize and we will have weather that we can get used to. Every new wind turbine or solar farm or electric vehicle makes that possibility more likely. But our current pace of change means that we have decades of work ahead of us to reach a true new normal. 

I obviously disdain such opinion pieces and think they just shouldn't see light of day, ever, they are just plain stupid and add nothing, convince no one, outline no practicable anything.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8435 on: July 18, 2023, 05:41:12 PM »
The 2015 major El Nino was predicted years in advance using a lunar cycle | Climate Etc. (judithcurry.com)



That El Nino ended a 5-year drought and filled up our lakes from about 27% full to 100% full in a matter of a few months.

I was hoping it was predicting another super strong El Nino for 2023 but it looks like we have to wait until 2034.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8436 on: July 18, 2023, 06:06:39 PM »
Plant a tree
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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« Reply #8437 on: July 18, 2023, 06:08:17 PM »


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« Reply #8438 on: July 18, 2023, 06:09:26 PM »
They should shut and plant trees to
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8439 on: July 18, 2023, 06:23:07 PM »
What Is Arbor Day?
The origins of Arbor Day date back to the early 1870s in Nebraska City, . A journalist by the name of Julius Sterling Morton moved to the state with his wife, Caroline, in 1854, a little more than 10 years before Nebraska gained its statehood in 1867. The couple purchased 160 acres in Nebraska City and planted a wide variety of trees and shrubs in what was a primarily a flat stretch of desolate plain.

Morton also became the editor of the state’s first newspaper, Nebraska City News, which was a perfect platform for Morton to spread his knowledge of trees… and to stress their ecological importance to Nebraska. His message of tree life resonated with his readers, many of whom recognized the lack of forestation in their community. Morton also became involved with the Nebraska Board of Agriculture.

On January 7, 1872, Morton proposed a day that would encourage all Nebraskans to plant trees in their community. The agriculture board agreed, and after some back-and-forth about the title—the event was originally going to be called “Sylvan Day” in reference to forest trees—Morton convinced everyone that the day should reflect the appreciation of all trees, and “Arbor Day” was born.


The First Arbor Day
With the seeds of interest already planted in the minds of devoted Nebraska City News readers, the first ever Arbor Day was held on April 10, 1872 and was a wild success. Morton led the charge in the planting of approximately 1 million trees. Enthusiasm and engagement was aided by the prizes awarded to those who planted trees correctly.

The tradition quickly began to spread. In 1882, schools across the country started to participate, and more than a decade after its introduction, Arbor Day became an official state holiday in Nebraska in 1885. April 22 was initially chosen because of its ideal weather for planting trees and in recognition of Morton’s birthday.

Within 20 years, Arbor Day had reached a large swath of the nation and was celebrated in every state except for Delaware. The holiday spread even further with the help of fellow agriculturalist Birdsey Northrop. In 1883, Northrop introduced the concept of Arbor Day to Japan, and continued to influence the creation of Arbor Days across Europe, Canada and Australia.

Theodore Roosevelt and Arbor Day
On April 15, 1907, President Theodore Roosevelt, a supporter of the Conservation Movement, issued an "Arbor Day Proclamation to the School Children of the United States,” telling them:

“It is well that you should celebrate your Arbor Day thoughtfully, for within your lifetimes the Nation’s need of trees will become serious. We of an older generation can get along with what we have, though with growing hardship; but in your full manhood and womanhood you will want what nature once so bountifully supplied and man so thoughtlessly destroyed.”

Arbor Day Becomes A National Holiday
It wasn’t until 1970, however, that Arbor Day became recognized nationwide thanks to the efforts of President Richard Nixon. This move was in line with other environmentally-friendly actions taken by Nixon in the 1970s, including the passing of the Clean Air Act, the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act and the National Environmental Protection Act, along with the creation of the Environmental Protection Agency.

Although some states celebrate Arbor Day at different times of year to ensure that the trees are in the best environment to thrive, the national observance falls on the last Friday in April. And although Julius Morton died in 1902, well before the holiday was given a formal day of observance across the country, he is still commemorated in Washington, D.C. in a statue dedicated to the “Father of Arbor Day” in the National Hall of Fame.

How Do You Celebrate Arbor Day?
Arbor Day is celebrated on the last Friday in April in the United States. It is marked by the planting of trees and emphasizes caring for them as a way to sustainably protect our planet’s natural resources. People often dedicate trees to loved ones. Morton’s words about Arbor Day resonate strongly today, as climate change becomes a growing threat: “Other holidays repose upon the past; Arbor Day proposes for the future.”
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8440 on: July 19, 2023, 10:11:59 AM »
I'm not sure that this massive failure was discussed here. Maybe it was.


Hail Storm Destroys Solar Farm in Nebraska - IER (instituteforenergyresearch.org)
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #8441 on: July 19, 2023, 10:13:00 AM »


The won't fail miserably, I suspect.  The various power companies will do "stuff" that makes sense to them.  Some of it will fail miserably I suspect, in time.  Some areas COULD get into a situation where brownouts become more common.  Then folks will react accordingly.

But the problems will be pretty easy to foresee and will happen on a smaller scale and others will avoid them.

See above.

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