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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7294 on: April 17, 2023, 08:29:02 AM »
Got about 3" of water in the pool last night.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7295 on: April 17, 2023, 08:36:08 AM »
No diving?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7296 on: April 17, 2023, 08:59:47 AM »
I suppose you could on the deep end. I'm not buying a diving board.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7297 on: April 17, 2023, 09:02:45 AM »
Our pool here had to install "No Diving" warnings around the edge to meet code.  It's maybe 3.5 feet deep.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7298 on: April 17, 2023, 09:37:07 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2023, 08:10:46 AM
It's part of the Lennar neighborhood.
probably even more expensive
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7299 on: April 17, 2023, 10:28:43 AM »
I think they are selling houses in the $600K+ ballpark.

Their development nearest us is not much different for the houses.

I've heard nice things about their course, which is included in the estate home price, apparently.

Heritage Landing New Home Community - Punta Gorda - Naples / Ft. Myers, FL | Lennar
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7300 on: April 17, 2023, 10:32:23 AM »
I noticed a lot of large residential areas going in around North Port, I presume they build a gold course, clubhouse first and then sell lots/houses.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7301 on: April 17, 2023, 10:41:54 AM »
Normally it's the opposite. Can't make money on a course if there are no streets to get to it, and nobody wants to golf in a dust storm.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7302 on: April 17, 2023, 10:46:48 AM »
Maybe so, I've seen a few developments in other states where they build the infrastructure and the  try and sell lots.  We toured one in Tennessee, which appeared to be flailing.  Another one went completely dead, zero houses built.

This $500 million golf course community was never finished. Now the developer is paying for it. | Chattanooga Times Free Press

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7303 on: April 17, 2023, 10:55:57 AM »
I've done 30+ developments with golf courses and only in 2 cases did the developer start with a golf course, and on one of them, the course was existing. Course leadership decided to sell off the remaining land around the course. That was tough to design around.

It's been 15 years or so since I've worked on one of those projects.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7304 on: April 17, 2023, 11:05:12 AM »
It probably takes deep pockets to prebuild the infrastructure stuff including a GC.  I just looked at a map and these places I've seen appear to be fully built anyway.  We had our final banquet at Plantation GC (which really doesn't do a great job, they are moving).





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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7305 on: April 17, 2023, 11:07:08 AM »
takes money to make money
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7306 on: April 17, 2023, 11:19:46 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 17, 2023, 06:08:42 AM
I don't know where you get this figure, or why it matters.


The number can be easily looked up and weve already discussed it and you agreed its less then 4%

It matters because if man contributes less then 4% of the worlds co2 its very hard to believe its the main cause of climate change
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7307 on: April 17, 2023, 11:30:59 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 17, 2023, 11:05:12 AM
It probably takes deep pockets to prebuild the infrastructure stuff including a GC.  I just looked at a map and these places I've seen appear to be fully built anyway.  We had our final banquet at Plantation GC (which really doesn't do a great job, they are moving).






Not probably.

It takes very deep pockets, and the funding normally comes from banks. They are all careful since 2008, so you are not going to see developers taking down 200 acres at a time anymore, unless it's Lennar, Toll Brothers, DR Horton, etc.
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