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Topic: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3556 on: September 24, 2020, 01:43:22 PM »
The tri-motor AWD vehicle, according to Musk, will offer 520 miles of range and 1100 horsepower. That range bests Lucid’s EPA estimated 517 miles that was announced last month. The Model S Plaid has a top speed of 200 mph. As Tesla puts it, "The only thing beyond Ludicrous is Plaid.”

Of course all that speed and cost will cost you a pretty penny. Actually quite a lot of pennies. The Model S Plaid costs $139,990 making it out of reach for all but a few—and a far cry from the $25,000 EV Musk also promised, but that one not for three years.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34115854/tesla-model-s-plaid-1100-hp-pre-order/?utm_source=facebook&src=socialflowFBCAD&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowFBCD&fbclid=IwAR2O9ni8_zpbWP6gIz4Ytgr_rJM_hoz86QfYPPCBcbUR3Ax6Ls9uWMjS1yI
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3557 on: September 24, 2020, 02:01:03 PM »
The tri-motor AWD vehicle, according to Musk, will offer 520 miles of range and 1100 horsepower. That range bests Lucid’s EPA estimated 517 miles that was announced last month. The Model S Plaid has a top speed of 200 mph. As Tesla puts it, "The only thing beyond Ludicrous is Plaid.”

Of course all that speed and cost will cost you a pretty penny. Actually quite a lot of pennies. The Model S Plaid costs $139,990 making it out of reach for all but a few—and a far cry from the $25,000 EV Musk also promised, but that one not for three years.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34115854/tesla-model-s-plaid-1100-hp-pre-order/?utm_source=facebook&src=socialflowFBCAD&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowFBCD&fbclid=IwAR2O9ni8_zpbWP6gIz4Ytgr_rJM_hoz86QfYPPCBcbUR3Ax6Ls9uWMjS1yI

Sounds amazing!  What's the towing range with a 9,000 lb trailer behind it?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3558 on: September 24, 2020, 03:10:05 PM »
probably 499 miles

with 1100 HP it wouldn't even know the trailer was hitched
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3559 on: September 24, 2020, 03:31:10 PM »
probably 499 miles

with 1100 HP it wouldn't even know the trailer was hitched
499 miles?  Sign me up for one right now!!!!!

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3560 on: September 24, 2020, 03:43:11 PM »
they will need the $139,990 deposit
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3561 on: September 24, 2020, 03:45:32 PM »
I like it when politicians who could be in office for only 8 more years at most promise to hit some goal 15 years from now (or more).


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3562 on: September 24, 2020, 03:46:39 PM »
they will need the $139,990 deposit
If it can tow 9,000 lbs for 499 miles, I'll take TWO!

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3563 on: September 24, 2020, 04:10:51 PM »
A Ford pickup can tow more than that for 500 miles on one tank of gas for less than half the price
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« Reply #3564 on: September 24, 2020, 04:41:57 PM »
A Ford pickup can tow more than that for 500 miles on one tank of gas for less than half the price
That's the joke. :)

There's absolutely no way any Tesla EV has a towing range of 499 miles for a 9,000 lb trailer.  I'd be surprised if it could even do 100 miles.  Which is my point, every time I bring this up.  All of the folks predicting a complete changeover to all EV by 2035, or 2050, or 2070, aren't accounting for all of the use cases.  And I'll add that towing isn't even a corner case, it's a very common use case.

(I'm not saying CD made the assertion that all vehicles would be EV by 2035 or any other year, just pointing out the challenges with getting ENTIRELY there, in ANY future year.  The ICE just isn't going away for EVERY application, any time in the even the NOT near term).

Also I'll point out that not ALL Ford pickups can tow more than that on one tank of gas.  250/350 diesels can, but my F150 gas-turbo can do about 350-400 miles on one tank (36 gallons) towing my 9,000 lb trailer.  Around 10-11 mpg.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3565 on: September 24, 2020, 04:57:29 PM »
being in the telecom/ISP business for the past 30 years

nothing changes as quickly as salesman and consulting engineering firms want it to

we all wish everyone in America had a fiber optic internet connection 10 years ago, but it'll be more than ten years from now before everyone has fiber
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3566 on: September 24, 2020, 05:12:02 PM »
being in the telecom/ISP business for the past 30 years

nothing changes as quickly as salesman and consulting engineering firms want it to

we all wish everyone in America had a fiber optic internet connection 10 years ago, but it'll be more than ten years from now before everyone has fiber

They were supposed to have fiber to my house a decade ago.  Still not here, and this is in Austin metro which is more advanced than a lot of other cities.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3567 on: September 24, 2020, 05:41:14 PM »
They were supposed to have fiber to my house a decade ago. Still not here, and this is in Austin metro which is more advanced than a lot of other cities.
I have two choices for internet. Overpriced fast cable internet [not fiber] through Cox, or 3 Mbps DSL through AT&T. That's not a typo. 3 Mbps. 

So because there is not legitimate competition for Cox, I overpay for their service. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3568 on: September 24, 2020, 05:45:44 PM »
AT&T got their fiber within a mile or so, a decade ago, and didn't put any more into it.

Google got their fiber within one block of me, about 4 years ago, and then stopped.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3569 on: September 24, 2020, 07:07:23 PM »
I think by 2035 the market will have already gone to mostly EVs anyway for new vehicles, especially in urban/suburban areas.

"Mostly" means 51% I think.  Trucks may be later, but the torque from electric is a plus.

Fifteen years is a decent period of time.  More EVs were sold in the US last year than cars with manual transmissions.  Norway is over 50% now.

 

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