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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1764 on: August 05, 2019, 07:57:12 AM »
Funny, I thought those electric car charging stations were powered by "I'm saving the planet" happy thoughts.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1765 on: August 05, 2019, 08:26:31 AM »
Ya Ed Zachery 430,good find FF
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1766 on: August 05, 2019, 08:51:08 AM »
some electricity is clean and/or green

most is not
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1767 on: August 05, 2019, 11:57:15 AM »
saw this on FB so cornsider the source

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The promise of EVs isn't to *always* be better than gas today no matter what. We often see it published, for example, that if the grid in your area is powered by coal, your carbon footprint for an EV will actually be larger than it'd be for a small car burning unleaded. Neither side will debate that. The promise of EVs, though, is only partly about 2019. Mostly, it's about flexibility as our grid changes. Because a car that burns unleaded can never be powered by natural gas (still with a carbon footprint but smaller than unleaded) or (smaller yet) nuclear, geothermal, solar, wind, etc.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1769 on: August 09, 2019, 07:12:45 AM »
Rust is kinda down the energy well, as they say.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1770 on: August 16, 2019, 08:57:20 PM »
A puffy pink seaweed that can stop cows from burping out methane is being primed for mass farming by Australian researchers.

The particular seaweed species, called Asparagopsis, grows prolifically off the Queensland Coast, and was the only seaweed found to have the effect in a study five years ago led by CSIRO. Even a small amount of the seaweed in a cow’s diet was shown to reduce the animal’s gases by 99%.

Associate Professor Nick Paul, who is the leader of the Seaweed Research Group at the University of the Sunshine Coast (USC), said that if Australia could grow enough of the seaweed for every cow in the nation, the country could cut its greenhouse gas emissions by 10%.


https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/gamechanging-pink-seaweed-reduces-cow-emissions/
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1771 on: August 17, 2019, 08:24:21 AM »
I could imagine that aqua farming enough seaweed might disturb the oceanic ecosystem a good bit.

Lots of cows, lots of seaweed.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1772 on: August 17, 2019, 11:37:21 AM »
I believe there's a new bovine vaccine (perhaps not commercially available yet but well along the pipeline) against the gut bacterial species responsible for cows churning cellulose into methane. It works! I watched a video recently. I had been concerned that this might affect cellulose digestion. That the cows might appear malnourished/smaller, etc. But the same-age adult cows seemed equal side-by-side to the unvaccinated guys (to my amateur eye).

My remaining question (still unanswered) is whether these vaccinated cows have less efficient digestive systems and might require more grazing space, which would be quite counterproductive.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1773 on: August 21, 2019, 12:52:01 PM »
Scientists have developed a large-scale economical method to extract hydrogen (H2) from oil sands (natural bitumen) and oil fields. This can be used to power hydrogen-powered vehicles, which are already marketed in some countries, as well as to generate electricity; hydrogen is regarded as an efficient transport fuel, similar to petrol and diesel, but with no pollution problems. The process can extract hydrogen from existing oil sands reservoirs, with huge existing supplies found in Canada and Venezuela. Interestingly, this process can be applied to mainstream oil fields, causing them to produce hydrogen instead of oil.

https://phys.org/news/2019-08-scientists-hydrogen-gas-oil-bitumen.html
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1774 on: August 21, 2019, 01:02:16 PM »
Scientists have developed a large-scale economical method to extract hydrogen (H2) from oil sands (natural bitumen) and oil fields. This can be used to power hydrogen-powered vehicles, which are already marketed in some countries, as well as to generate electricity; hydrogen is regarded as an efficient transport fuel, similar to petrol and diesel, but with no pollution problems. The process can extract hydrogen from existing oil sands reservoirs, with huge existing supplies found in Canada and Venezuela. Interestingly, this process can be applied to mainstream oil fields, causing them to produce hydrogen instead of oil.

https://phys.org/news/2019-08-scientists-hydrogen-gas-oil-bitumen.html
What do you make about the explosion concerns? There have been a few recent high-profile explosions at Hydrogen fueling stations.

It seems to me that H2 is a great fuel. Easier and quicker to refuel than it is to charge, and doesn't require installing charging stations in the home (so better works for renters). So there's no range anxiety. And if we can get H2 in high quantities without HUGE environmental burden, it might be much more environmentally friendly than large-scale mining for battery metals.

But people tend to not like exploding ;-) 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1775 on: August 21, 2019, 01:15:55 PM »
H2 is literally extracted from oil. It's beholden to carbon. Relative to EVs, it's an inferior technology for our vehicles' futures on many grounds:


  • beholden to carbon
  • makes cars into "safer" mini-Hindenburgs
  • still requires refueling at stations ad infinitum; I suspect that will eventually feel archaic compared to refueling at home while asleep


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1776 on: August 21, 2019, 02:04:22 PM »
H2 is literally extracted from oil. It's beholden to carbon. Relative to EVs, it's an inferior technology for our vehicles' futures on many grounds:


  • beholden to carbon
  • makes cars into "safer" mini-Hindenburgs
  • still requires refueling at stations ad infinitum; I suspect that will eventually feel archaic compared to refueling at home while asleep


Whether it's electricity, or H2, or propane, or gasoline, or banana peels in a Mr. Fusion reactor, my autonomous car will be able to drive itself wherever it needs, to refuel, either whilst I work, or sleep, or attend a college football game.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1777 on: August 21, 2019, 02:22:51 PM »
The researchers have found that injecting oxygen into the fields raises the temperature and liberates H2, which can then be separated from other gases via specialist filters. Hydrogen is not pre-existing in the reservoirs, but pumping oxygen means that the reaction to form hydrogen can take place.

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