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Topic: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
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MrNubbz · « **Reply #42 on:** January 25, 2019, 08:40:55 AM »

Quote from: GopherRock on January 25, 2019, 07:24:53 AM

The Rose Bowl still means a lot to teams that don't regularly play for national championships.

Like Nebraska or Penn St

FearlessF · « **Reply #43 on:** January 25, 2019, 09:01:03 AM »

I'm old, but the Rose Bowl meant a lot to me.

Growing up as a Buckeye fan helped of course.

When the Huskers played the Canes there I jumped at the chance to see my team in that game. Even if I thought they had little chance at a win.

I would have attended a Rose bowl by now if the the Huskers didn't play there.

If the Huskers ever make it back to Pasadena, I'll likely make the trip.

Hoss · « **Reply #44 on:** January 25, 2019, 09:16:41 AM »

My .02:

When I was growing up the Rose Bowl was an afterthought, and I was a rabid consumer of college football. I used to buy up every one of those those preseason mags and read and re-read them, memorizing the best players, coaches and teams. I still have many of those mags.

Don’t get me wrong; the Rose was interesting when there were matchups between highly-rated Helmet Schools. That didn’t happen on a regular basis though. What I was seeing happen on a regular basis were the top-ranked schools from the other conferences squaring off against one another in the other NYD bowls. That was far more interesting, to me.

Just based on the anecdotal evidence from convos I was seeing online at CNN/SI and email listservs such, fans from the rest of the country felt the same and were ready to move on into some type of pre-playoff structure without the Big Ten after 1997. That controversy served to wake the BIG, fortunately.

Kris60 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 25, 2019, 09:50:58 AM »

Quote from: Hoss on January 25, 2019, 09:16:41 AM

My .02:

When I was growing up the Rose Bowl was an afterthought, and I was a rabid consumer of college football. I used to buy up every one of those those preseason mags and read and re-read them, memorizing the best players, coaches and teams. I still have many of those mags.

Don’t get me wrong; the Rose was interesting when there were matchups between highly-rated Helmet Schools. That didn’t happen on a regular basis though. What I was seeing happen on a regular basis were the top-ranked schools from the other conferences squaring off against one another in the other NYD bowls. That was far more interesting, to me.

Just based on the anecdotal evidence from convos I was seeing online at CNN/SI and email listservs such, fans from the rest of the country felt the same and were ready to move on into some type of pre-playoff structure without the Big Ten after 1997. That controversy served to wake the BIG, fortunately.

I was the exact same way. I was most interested in the games that impacted the national championship race and there was a stretch where the Rose wasn’t one of those games. Honestly, my memories of watching the Rose when I was younger was as a way to pass time until the Orange Bowl started. For a while it seemed like the Orange always impacted the NC race.

ELA · « **Reply #46 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:08:20 AM »

I have a slight recollection of watching the 10-9 Colorado-ND game. I'm fairly certain I didn't see another Orange Bowl until the Nebraska-Tennessee game, and even then I recall being out somewhere, and watching part of the second half when we got home, even though a Nebraska loss would have totally cleared the way for my team to win a full national title. Didn't care, UM did what they did, voters could vote however they wanted. I think the only piece of memorabilia I got from that year said Rose Bowl champs, didn't even say National Champs on it.

I'm not saying it was nothing, but it was just a little additional icing, like having a player from your team win the Heisman or something. I'd prefer it to not, but didn't really care. And I certainly cared less about who won the national championship than I did about watching the Rose Bowl.

FearlessF · « **Reply #47 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:16:49 AM »

the B1G and PAC had the Rose

The Big 8 had the Orange

The SEC had the Sugar

The SWC had the Cotton

Whatever game had the best match-ups vs the highest ranked teams garnered additional attention that bowl season

The Rose didn't crown as many mythical champions in the 70s and 80s and 90s, but they did have the time slot and Keith Jackson and Pasadena

847badgerfan · « **Reply #48 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:22:01 AM »

It's got sponsors now but I still like that the Rose Bowl is not the __________ Rose Bowl.

It's

Rose Bowl Game
presented by __________.

Kris60 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:35:32 AM »

Quote from: Kris60 on January 25, 2019, 09:50:58 AM

I was the exact same way. I was most interested in the games that impacted the national championship race and there was a stretch where the Rose wasn’t one of those games. Honestly, my memories of watching the Rose when I was younger was as a way to pass time until the Orange Bowl started. For a while it seemed like the Orange always impacted the NC race.

To further drive home that point my formative years watching college football was probably from about the 1982 season through the 1994 season. I went from 6 to 18 years old during that stretch. There were 13 Orange Bowls and 13 Rose Bowls during that period.
Of the 13 Rose Bowls during that time only one featured two top 5 AP teams (Michigan and Washington during the 91 season) and only two others featured two top 10 teams (Arizona St and Michigan in 86 and Michigan and Washington in 92).
By contrast, the Orange Bowl during that same period had eight matchups that featured AP top 5 teams and the winner of the Orange Bowl was crowned the AP national champion 7 times. So, I guess not growing up cheering for a Big Ten team or a Pac 10 team and not having relevance in the NC race for a while just made the Rose Bowl a lot less special to me than some other folks.

ELA · « **Reply #50 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:40:55 AM »

Yeah, and growing up in the 90s, obviously the Orange Bowl was still there, but the Rose Bowl, even if that was what you cared about, featured in the national championship discussion prominently. It was the Sugar Bowl that was probably the afterthought in the 90s. After that Georgia-Penn State game, it went about 15 years of being mostly irrelevant to the NC discussion, except for the one Miami-Bama game. I still don't get it's time slot. Rose is on early enough, that it's still must see TV to me. Sugar, eh. I've got to go to work the next day, holidays are over, I probably stayed up too late the night before. Even when the Sugar is a CFP game, I don't watch it.

Kris60 · « **Reply #51 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:49:14 AM »

Out of curiosity is the Rose still like a holiday event for your family? Was Oklahoma-Georgia viewed the same way as the traditional Pac 10/Big 10 matchup?

847badgerfan · « **Reply #52 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:51:29 AM »

Quote from: Kris60 on January 25, 2019, 10:49:14 AM

Out of curiosity is the Rose still like a holiday event for your family? Was Oklahoma-Georgia viewed the same way as the traditional Pac 10/Big 10 matchup?

Yes. No.

FearlessF · « **Reply #53 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:52:21 AM »

I always watched them all. Even with the hangover and lack of sleep. I may have dozed off a few times, but always had at least two TVs going on New Year's Day for football

FearlessF · « **Reply #54 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:53:12 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 25, 2019, 10:22:01 AM

It's got sponsors now but I still like that the Rose Bowl is not the __________ Rose Bowl.

Enjoy it while you can

847badgerfan · « **Reply #55 on:** January 25, 2019, 10:57:05 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on January 25, 2019, 10:53:12 AM

Enjoy it while you can

The 1999 game was the first to have a sponsor (advent of the BCS the need for more payout $$ caused this). I blame Roy Kramer.

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