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Topic: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?

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OrangeAfroMan

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VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« on: January 24, 2019, 01:48:34 AM »
It's December 9th, 1994.  The regular season is over and these are the top 4 teams set to face off in the playoff.  No bowls have been played.  Who do you think will win and why?
#1 Nebraska vs #4 Colorado
#2 Penn State vs #3 Miami
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The Teams:
#1 Nebraska, 12-0, Big 8 Champions
8th in scoring offense
3rd in scoring defense
40th in strength of schedule
The Cornhuskers were in the top 5 all season long and didn't lose a game.  From shutting out #24 WV in the kickoff classic, they beat the other 3 ranked opponents by double digits as well, in #13 UCLA, at #16 KSU, and #2 Colorado.  The Blackshirts' defense held half their schedule to single-digit scores and the Nebraska option offense put up 40+ in half their games.
Despite QB Frazier missing most of the season with blood clots, backup QB Berringer kept the Huskers moving with very good passing numbers in limited attempts.  Add to that 340 yards per game on the ground, and UNL was prolific on offense.  I-Back Lawrence Philips had his best year in '94, with 1700 yards and 16 TD.  When your FB averages over 7 ypc, you know the option is rockin'!
The Defense was stout vs run and pass - teams completed only 47% of passes and ran for under 80 yards per game.  
The return game and punting were good, but FG kicking was a mess - only making half their attempts on the season.
*Frazier would be healthy to play in the playoff, as he did in the bowl game in 1994
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#2 Penn State, 11-0, Independent
1st in scoring offense
30th in scoring defense
8th in strength of schedule
The only other undefeated team in 1994, Penn St was in the top 10 all year.  Three of their wins were against ranked teams (#14 USC, at #5 Michigan, and a huge blowout vs #21 OSU).  That win over the Bucks got PSU to #1, but they fell to #2 after a deceptively close win vs Indiana and again the next week vs Illinois.
The Nittany Lion offense was all-time great.  It was balanced (270 passing/250 rushing), efficient (QB Collins 173 pass rating), and explosive (both leading WRs averaged 20 ypc).  Nearly had two 1,000 yard receivers (Engram & Scott) and a 1,500 yard rusher (Carter) who averaged 7.8 ypc and 23 TD.  
The defense, however, didn't stop many foes.  Seven teams scored 20+ on PSU, which is very high for an undefeated team.  It didn't matter, though, because their offense was that good.
Add to that great FG kicking and poor punting, with a decent return game, and PSU was a tough out.
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#3 Miami, 10-1, Big East Champions
#22 in scoring offense
#2 in scoring defense
#33 in strength of schedule
A relatively odd Hurricanes squad - the offense was very average, lacking those big passing numbers most Miami teams had during the era.  This team was all defense, and what a defense it was!
Miami's incredible 58-game home winning streak was snapped in September, losing to #17 Washington, but after that, Miami won their last 8 games.  Half of those were against ranked teams:  #3 FSU, #13 VT, at #10 Syracuse, and #25 BC.  
QB Frank Costa struggled, throwing as many INT as TD and lacked a dominant WR.  The running game probably kept Miami in the playoff hunt offensively.  Their RB-by-committee had a good ypc average and kept the chains moving.  
The pass D was elite, giving up only 125 yards through the air, per game @ under 50% completion rate.  A good pass rush with Kennard Lang and a sideline-to-sideline fast LB in Ray Lewis limited opponents' scoring.  Miami only allowed 2 teams to score over 14 points on the year - the loss vs UW and in a comfortable win over FSU.  
The return game was good and kicker Prewitt only missed 1 FG all season, but the Canes struggled to find a consistent punter (3 players punted on the year).
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#4 Colorado, 10-1
4th in scoring offense
25th in scoring defense
27th in strength of schedule
The Buffaloes spent the season ranked in the top 10, despite losing at #3 Nebraska.  They beat the other five ranked teams on the slate, though - #10 Wisconsin (by 38), at #4 Michigan (Hail Mary), at #16 Texas, #22 OU (by 38) and #19 KSU.  
QB Kordell Stewart led a more balanced offense than CU was used to in '94, as the Buffs threw for 200 yards per game in addition to their nearly 300 yards/gm rushing.  His 10-3 TD to INT ratio helped the offense put up big numbers, as did RB Salaam (Heisman winner).  His 2,000 yards and 24 TD on the ground carried the load.  Stewart's main target was Michael Westbrook at WR.  
On defense, Colorado wasn't elite, but they were good enough.  The Pass D struggled giving up yardage, but did snag its share of INTs.  Teams could only rush for 3 ypc on the Buffs on the year.
Special teams weren't a CU specialty, as none of them stood out.
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***The SEC may have cost itself a playoff spot in 1994, as #3 Alabama was undefeated going into the SECCG, losing to Florida.  The Gators wound up ranked 5th and out of the potential playoff.
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Award-Winners involved:
RB Rashaan Salaam, Colorado (Heisman, Walker, Camp, All-American)
DT Warren Sapp, Miami (Nagurski, Lombardi, AA)
QB Kerry Collins, Penn State (O'Brien, Maxwell, Baugh, AA)
WR Bobby Engram, Penn State (Biletnikoff)
CB Chris Hudson, Colorado (Thorpe, AA)
OT Zach Wiegert, Nebraska (Outland, AA)
HC Tom Osborne, Nebraska (AFCA Coach of the Year)
HC Joe Paterno, Penn State (Camp Coach of the Year)
WR Michael Westbrook, Colorado (AA)
G   Brenden Stai, Nebraska (AA)
LB Ed Stewart, Nebraska (AA)
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2019, 08:01:35 AM »
This was the season that taught me to always root for your conference-mates in OOC games because of what happened to Penn State.  

@OrangeAfroMan , your #1 timeline is a little off.  In the October 11, 1994 Poll your Gators were #1 followed by Nebraska, Penn State, Colorado, Michigan, and Auburn.  On Saturday, October 15, 1994:
  • #1 Florida lost at home to #6 Auburn
  • #2 Nebraska won at #16 Kansas State
  • #3 Penn State won at #5 Michigan
  • #4 Colorado beat #22 Oklahoma at home
  • #5 Michigan lost at home to #3 Penn State (see above)
  • #6 Auburn won at #1 Florida (see above)

That is just a crazy weekend.  Four of the top-6 played each other (UF-AU, PSU-M) and the other two also played ranked teams.  That is amazing for a mid-October weekend.  

Anyway, it was that (PSU's win over #5 Michigan) that moved the Nittany Lions to #1.  When the dust settled from the Florida and Michigan losses the October 18, 1994 Poll was:
  • Penn State
  • Colorado
  • Nebraska
  • Auburn
  • Florida

The next weekend (10/22/1994) not much happened in the top-5.  #1 Penn State #4 Auburn, and #5 Florida were all off.  Meanwhile #2 Colorado beat #19 Kansas State and #3 Nebraska beat a bad Mizzou team.  The top-5 remained unchanged.  

The following weekend (10/29/1994) was when Nebraska took over the #1 spot for good:
  • #1 Penn State beat #21 Ohio State 63-14
  • #2 Colorado lost at #3 Nebraska 24-7
  • #3 Nebraska beat #2 Colorado (see above)
  • #4 Auburn beat Arkansas
  • #5 Florida beat Georgia

When the dust settled after Nebraska's win over #2 and Penn State's blowout of #21 the Cornhuskers held the #1 spot.  The November 1, 1994 Poll:
  • Nebraska
  • Penn State
  • Auburn
  • Florida
  • Miami, FL

What cost the Nits the #1 spot (and eventually the NC) was that Nebraska played a higher ranked team.  That wouldn't have been the case if not for Kordell Stewart's Hail Mary in the Big House.  Instead, Penn State's win over Michigan would have been even more impressive while Nebraska's win over Colorado would have been less impressive and Penn State would have won the NC.  

For the theoretical 1994 CFP, I voted for Penn State.  I'll admit that I'm biased because I watched that team just annihilate my Buckeyes.  That 1994 Ohio State squad was not all that bad.  They lost four games but they were:
  • 25-16 on the road to a Washington team that was good enough to win in the OB the following game.  
  • 24-10 at home to Illinois (I have no explanation for this)
  • 63-14 at Penn State
  • 24-17 in the Citrus Bowl to an Alabama team that was one point (their 24-23 loss to UF in the SECCG) from playing for the NC themselves.  
My point is that a pretty good Ohio State team wasn't more than a speed-bump to that PSU team.  

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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2019, 08:18:30 AM »
 It's a shame Penn State and Nebraska didn't play in '94.  Would have been a hell of a fun game.


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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2019, 09:39:12 AM »
More so than any other season 94 was the first season I really wanted the bowl tie ins tweaked to allow for matchups like Penn St-Nebraska.  Would have been a great game, imo.  I’ll take the Nittanies by a FG because of their offensive balance.
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2019, 09:58:53 AM »
Penn State over Nebraska

'94 wasn't even one of the best Osborne Nebraska teams, it was just one of the undefeatedest

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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2019, 11:41:40 AM »
Colorado loses to Nebraska again.

Penn State cruises over Miami.

Nebraska holds Penn State under 40, but loses by two scores. 

That Penn State team got jobbed. And Kordell Stewart may have been the one to do it to them.

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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 12:59:28 PM »
Thanks for the correction.  But I also think those Indiana and Illinois games prevented the Coaches Poll from giving Penn State a piece of the NC.  
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 01:07:38 PM »
would have been a helluva game between UNL and PSU, but I'll take the Huskers - great offense and defense vs great offense

I know I'm not supposed to consider this game, but......... Nebraska put up over 300 yards and 24 points on the Cane's defense, even in Miami’s home stadium, where the Hurricanes had won 62 of their last 63 games and had not lost at night since 1985.

The Husker's defense shut down the Buffs great offense to 7 points.  Sacked Stewart 4 times and Costa 5 times.

may not have been Osborne's best team, but it was a great team

beat a decent KSU team in Manhattan with a sophomore walk-on QB.  Blackshirts held the Wildcats to a season-low minus-seven yards rushing. K-State QB was sacked six times.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 01:43:21 PM »
UNL... best OL Tom Osborne ever had...   Deep at RB, FB and a very aggressive DL.   They beat Miami with an all pro Defense in Miami.  

PSU had a great offense... but so did Colorado..   Problem is neither team could/would stop UNL.   

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2019, 01:57:01 PM »
I have no qualms with taking NU over Penn State, especially if Frazier is starting. Pro style offenses were the Blackshirts meal of choice in those days.

Nebraska beat the other two head-to-head (with its backup QB playing 6/8 quarters) so there's no questions there.  

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2019, 02:21:52 PM »
I'm certainly glad you guys agree
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2019, 02:28:57 PM »
Three teams, Miami, Penn State, and Nebraska, had a chance to win the national championship. Nebraska held the top spot in both the Associated Press poll and the Coaches poll. The Huskers were in position to win the Orange Bowl on January 1 and claim the national championship.

Penn State would play Oregon the next day and needed a win paired with a Nebraska loss to take the top spot. Miami, playing what was essentially a home game at the Orange Bowl, had a chance to jump two spots to No. 1 with a win against Nebraska paired with a Penn State loss in the Rose Bowl.

https://www.blackshoediaries.com/2016/6/21/11968726/the-loss-that-cost-penn-state-football-the-1994-national-championship

The Lions took care of business, handling the Ducks 38-20. It was not a commanding victory, as it remained tied until late in the game. Penn State went on a 24-0 run following a game-tying touchdown pass by Oregon with less than five minutes remaining in the third quarter.

The Ducks out-gained the Lions in the game in terms of yards from scrimmage, 501 to 430, using a Rose Bowl-record 456 passing yards. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2019, 02:33:53 PM »
The Nebraska offense and really the offensive line just wears out the Nittany Lions on defense, especially in the second half. Frazier and Phillips bust off numerous big chunk runs and dominate the Nittany Lions.

The Nebraska offense dominates time of possession leaving the Lions offense standing and watching.

And when the Penn State offense does get on the field, they would have been facing what is by far the best defense they would have played against in 1994.

As much as Penn State fans hate it, the 1994 Cornhuskers were the best team in 1994.


1994 Nebraska 35+  1994 Penn State 17-21

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/409438-old-big-10-vs-nebraska-debate-revisted-1994-nebraska-vs-1994-penn-state
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 02:36:08 PM »
S&P+ has PSU #1, and Nebraska down at #4, behind Florida and Florida State

 

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