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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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ELA

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« Reply #3276 on: January 14, 2026, 07:39:49 PM »
One of our big boosters, Tony Buzbe, said we’ve got more money than brains.
Pretty sure the SEC was down to that and "It Just Means More" as slogans

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« Reply #3277 on: January 14, 2026, 08:06:03 PM »
What I think that may be ignoring is that it's not 100 millionaires giving $300K each.

It's 100 millionaires giving $300K each EVERY YEAR.

$20-30M/year are annual numbers.

How sustainable is this, really?
I get it.  The point I was flailing about trying to make was that I don't get the hook for the say $200k/yr donor.  

I don't know what it is now but you used to have to give about $2k/yr for the right to buy season tickets to tOSU games.  The hook there is obvious.  If I want to buy season tickets I have to give $2k THEN buy the tickets.  

I think the hook for a Knight/Cuban is some control and a sense of ownership.  They basically own those programs.  

The hook for someone in between is what I don't get.  If I gave say $200k/yr to tOSU it isn't like I'd be in control.  That is a lot of money but if Ohio State's NIL is $20-30M then my $200k would only be 0.6 - 1.0%.  

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« Reply #3278 on: January 14, 2026, 08:11:24 PM »
It's 10,000 millionaires giving $3K each & EVERY YEAR.

and 100,000 wanna be millionaires giving $300 each & EVERY YEAR.

well, that's the Nebraska way
This seems to be what is changing.  Ohio State has always had a very large fanbase largely because Ohio is a populous state and college football fandom is mostly undivided in Ohio.  Looking at the most populous states:
  • California has four major football programs.  
  • Texas has two big ones and a slew of mid-sized ones.  
  • Florida has three big ones.  
  • New York isn't that interested in football.  
  • Pennsylvania has PSU and Pitt.  
  • Illinois has Illinois and Northwestern plus my perception is that a LOT more Illinois people are fans of teams in adjacent states than is the case in Ohio.  
  • Ohio has Ohio State.  Cincy is quasi major but they aren't.  They don't out-draw tOSU even in Cincinnati.  
  • Georgia has UGA and GaTech.  
  • North Carolina has UNC and NCST plus Dook and Wake.  
  • Michigan has scUM and MSU.  

It seems in the NIL era this is becoming more of a play toy of billionaires.  Having a large and passionate fanbase is a lot less relevant.  

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« Reply #3279 on: January 14, 2026, 09:39:21 PM »
I get it.  The point I was flailing about trying to make was that I don't get the hook for the say $200k/yr donor. 

I don't know what it is now but you used to have to give about $2k/yr for the right to buy season tickets to tOSU games.  The hook there is obvious.  If I want to buy season tickets I have to give $2k THEN buy the tickets. 

I think the hook for a Knight/Cuban is some control and a sense of ownership.  They basically own those programs. 

The hook for someone in between is what I don't get.  If I gave say $200k/yr to tOSU it isn't like I'd be in control.  That is a lot of money but if Ohio State's NIL is $20-30M then my $200k would only be 0.6 - 1.0%. 
it's the same hook - season tickets - pure fanatic
That hasn't changed - just the elevated price
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« Reply #3280 on: January 14, 2026, 09:40:34 PM »



It seems in the NIL era this is becoming more of a play toy of billionaires.  Having a large and passionate fanbase is a lot less relevant. 

a small passionate billionaire base is the deal
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« Reply #3281 on: Today at 10:04:48 AM »
I get it.  The point I was flailing about trying to make was that I don't get the hook for the say $200k/yr donor. 

I don't know what it is now but you used to have to give about $2k/yr for the right to buy season tickets to tOSU games.  The hook there is obvious.  If I want to buy season tickets I have to give $2k THEN buy the tickets. 

I think the hook for a Knight/Cuban is some control and a sense of ownership.  They basically own those programs. 

The hook for someone in between is what I don't get.  If I gave say $200k/yr to tOSU it isn't like I'd be in control.  That is a lot of money but if Ohio State's NIL is $20-30M then my $200k would only be 0.6 - 1.0%. 
Understood. However remember that we're talking about some different things...

  • Revenue sharing for players comes out of the school's budget, and is capped uniformly across all schools.
  • NIL comes from private parties (whether actual endorsements, or commonly NIL collectives now) which are supposed to be arms-length transactions from the school's perspective

When you pay $2K for a seat license to OSU, that money goes into the AD's revenue and can't be used for NIL. However what you're getting for it is the seat license for one of the things you really want... Namely season tickets. 


With large donations to the athletic budget, you may not get control, but often you might get "perks" from the school. Not being someone who does it, I don't know what those perks are. But I'm guessing someone giving even $200K/year is given the red carpet treatment by the athletic dept at every opportunity. Its not control, but it's prestige. 

What sort of "perks" can you get from donating instead to an NIL collective? I'm not sure... I don't know if it would even be legal/appropriate for the school itself to treat you the same way they would a donor, because NIL collectives are supposed to be arms-length and not actually controlled/directed by the school. 

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« Reply #3282 on: Today at 11:54:43 AM »
Good leadership can convince the people with the $200K to spend that by spending it on the athletic department they are a part of something important. The world round, fundraisers play this game. The good ones can make those folks believe. That's all you need. That sounds like I'm against such things--I'm not. We all make choices about how to spend our money, and while I don't think I would be that person (supporting the fund to pay student athletes), I won't take a huge moral stand against it. Our market economy depends on people making lots of different choices.

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« Reply #3283 on: Today at 12:09:09 PM »
Good leadership can convince the people with the $200K to spend that by spending it on the athletic department they are a part of something important. The world round, fundraisers play this game. The good ones can make those folks believe. That's all you need. 
This is absolutely true.  It doesn't matter if you are fundraising for your school's NIL, for your local candidate for Council, for a national candidate, for a civic organization, or anything else.  
That sounds like I'm against such things--I'm not. We all make choices about how to spend our money, and while I don't think I would be that person (supporting the fund to pay student athletes), I won't take a huge moral stand against it. Our market economy depends on people making lots of different choices.
That is fair.  I guess if whoever leads Ohio State's NIL Collective can convince 200 guys that giving an extra $50k each will win us an NC . . . we'll have an extra $10M in our NIL and that may well lead us to an NC.  

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« Reply #3284 on: Today at 12:47:05 PM »
This is absolutely true.  It doesn't matter if you are fundraising for your school's NIL, for your local candidate for Council, for a national candidate, for a civic organization, or anything else.  That is fair.  I guess if whoever leads Ohio State's NIL Collective can convince 200 guys that giving an extra $50k each will win us an NC . . . we'll have an extra $10M in our NIL and that may well lead us to an NC. 
You've already got plenty ya greedy bastage!

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« Reply #3285 on: Today at 12:52:57 PM »
Talk to Mark Cuban or the Texas Oilmen, that state had 2 teams in and the Horns had an arguement to be  :dance:
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