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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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utee94

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« Reply #1708 on: August 18, 2024, 01:09:00 PM »
I don't disagree but there are a lot more college jobs than NFL jobs available.

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« Reply #1709 on: August 18, 2024, 03:09:04 PM »
I don't disagree but there are a lot more college jobs than NFL jobs available.
that's obviously true. but my guess here is that there are lot of guys in college right now who could make the jump to the NFL if they really wanted to. maybe they won't be HC's but they could be co-ordinators or position coaches. and quite frankly I think I'd take that and try to work my way up in the NFL rather than be a head coach in college. 

For instance I can almost guarantee you that Jeem would've brought Sherrone Moore with him to the Chargers as OL coach/Co-OC if Moore really wanted to make the jump. Ryan Day could get an OC job tomorrow in the NFL if he wanted. Day could go to any NFL team with a QB be the OC for 2-3 years and then almost pick his NFL HC job after that. And shit if I was in his position- that's exactly what I'd do. F*ck being a college head coach right now. Especially at a place as bat shit crazy as Ohio State. Dude wins 88% of his games and has only lost I think 3 conference games- all to Michigan- and if he loses to Michigan this year they'll want to run him out of town.

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« Reply #1710 on: August 18, 2024, 03:24:18 PM »
There are, what, 32 teams in the NFL?  So 96 total potential HC, OC, DC positions? 

All of those positions are currently occupied by coaches who have already worked their way up in the NFL, so there's maybe... 8-10 positions that would realistically be open for a current college coach to move into?

The fact is, the vast majority of college coaches simply aren't able to move up to the NFL.  Maybe a small handful each year.  So while it's easy to say "If I were a coach, I'd just ditch college and move to the NFL" the truth is that's just not a realistic option for the vast majority of college coaches.

I'll add to that by saying, I'd pretty happily put up with all the bulljive of coaching in college for a million or more per year.  I currently put up with a ton of bulljive in corporate America, for less than that.


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« Reply #1711 on: August 18, 2024, 08:55:31 PM »
Mike Gundy is the man. Always liked that guy. Straight up no BS dude and hell of a coach.

That type of sh*t is why if I was a football coach, I'm out on college. Forever. I'm trying to get an NFL job. To hell with that bullshit.
Ironically, his most high profile moment was in fact built on BS.

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« Reply #1712 on: August 18, 2024, 11:08:25 PM »
Id say the issue with the NFL isnthat if you have kids, there is almost no stability.  Granted you only get that in college as a proven HC, or enteenched coordinator, and it seems like nobody even wants to be that, even before the recent changes.

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« Reply #1713 on: August 19, 2024, 08:21:16 AM »
There are, what, 32 teams in the NFL?  So 96 total potential HC, OC, DC positions? 

All of those positions are currently occupied by coaches who have already worked their way up in the NFL, so there's maybe... 8-10 positions that would realistically be open for a current college coach to move into?

The fact is, the vast majority of college coaches simply aren't able to move up to the NFL.  Maybe a small handful each year.  So while it's easy to say "If I were a coach, I'd just ditch college and move to the NFL" the truth is that's just not a realistic option for the vast majority of college coaches.

I'll add to that by saying, I'd pretty happily put up with all the bulljive of coaching in college for a million or more per year.  I currently put up with a ton of bulljive in corporate America, for less than that.


I think the pool is a little wider just because they have like a quarter million position coaches. But it’s true that not everyone can get out, and honestly, it doesn’t seem like everyone wants to get out. It’s a job with more stress these days, but also much more reward at the highest levels of college.

and if you’re a college coach with name, recognition, you can always drop down to the high school level and get a well-paying job in certain states. And you get the most pure kind of coaching there is (plus different booster BS)


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« Reply #1715 on: August 20, 2024, 01:47:28 PM »
Anyone tell the head coach?


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« Reply #1717 on: August 20, 2024, 06:04:13 PM »
nice gimmick

ain't gonna do much good
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« Reply #1718 on: August 20, 2024, 06:13:44 PM »
Especially at a place as bat shit crazy as Ohio State. Dude wins 88% of his games and has only lost I think 3 conference games- all to Michigan- and if he loses to Michigan this year they'll want to run him out of town.
Oh and the Maize & Bluto fans weren't calling for Booger's head after going 0-5 vs tOSU but he took the pay cut instead? No reason for DAY to lose to UM @ home, considering Ms exodus. And with portal and NIL coin and all the returning Buckeyes - he 's not getting the John Cooper waiver
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« Reply #1719 on: August 20, 2024, 06:19:36 PM »
he took the pay cut and probably would have been fired at 0-6

so, he cheated
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« Reply #1720 on: August 20, 2024, 06:22:00 PM »
Oh and the Maize & Bluto fans weren't calling for Booger's head after going 0-5 vs tOSU but he took the pay cut instead? No reason for DAY to lose to UM @ home, considering Ms exodus. And with portal and NIL coin and all the returning Buckeyes - he 's not getting the John Cooper waiver

Well there are some key differences here, as Jeem was taking over a Michigan program that was pretty much a perennial loser and dumpster fire from 2008 to 2014. A program that had been completely and thoroughly owned by Ohio State during that timespan. Ryan Day meanwhile took over a program that was one of the 2 or 3 best in all of America, a perennial contender that was a well-oiled machine that Urban Meyer had stocked with NFL talent.

But you're right, there were fans turning on Jeem in a big way. After his 4th straight loss it started. That fifth straight loss- he was basically coaching for his job in 2020 until COVID hit and gave him a reset. But Jeem flipped the script though. Day almost has to win this year. I can't imagine what Columbus is like if he loses at home as a heavy favorite and loses 4 straight to Michigan.... those fans would be ready to nail him to a cross and burn him alive.

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« Reply #1721 on: August 20, 2024, 06:33:48 PM »
he took the pay cut and probably would have been fired at 0-6

so, he cheated
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