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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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FearlessF

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« Reply #1610 on: June 04, 2024, 12:34:53 PM »
Ralphie is a cow!
and Deion is a bitch
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« Reply #1611 on: June 04, 2024, 03:15:46 PM »
Sure, though honestly, the a big issue is:

  • Akron or Marshall
  • Western Michigan or Indiana
  • Iowa, Nebraska, or Purdue

The NFL has dealt with similar issues, though certainly isn't struggling.
Obviously they'd have stronger demand if one of Zips/Broncos/Herd were replaced by one of Tide/Dawgs/Tigers but as @847badgerfan said, back in the day they had no problem selling out the stadium for games against weak opposition.  
But that brings me to my point about the NFL. It has definitely dealt with attendance issues and have had to respond with fancy stadiums and lots of perks. But despite attendance, there can be no argument that the NFL is struggling. Ohio Stadium is a million years old and seats over 100K, way more than both the Browns and the Bengals. While I agree that they should hold on to satisfying attendees over television viewers, I don't think that means the game is dying.
You might be right.  From a revenue standpoint the fans actually in the stands don't bring anywhere near what the TV contracts bring and as long as they still command those eyeballs they'll be able to monetize that somehow regardless of whether people are watching OTA TV, Cable, Streaming, or whatever comes next.  My issue is more of a long-term thing.  

I think that with the expanded playoff, they'll still get ridiculous numbers of viewers for the playoff games themselves, the B1GCG, and a few really big games (Oregon, PSU, M) but outside of that, I think you'll see viewership numbers drop.  Maybe I'm wrong but as I see it, Ohio State games for 2024 aren't "appointment viewing" the way they were before because individual games don't matter the way they did before.  

Ohio State is one of the top two or three favorites to win the NC.  Same was true in 1998 and they lost just one somewhat random mid-season game in which they were favored by double-digits.  Back then EACH and every game was vitally important to tOSU's NC hopes because a single loss could and did quash their NC dreams.  In the 2024 set-up, the Buckeyes have AT LEAST two mulligans so if I can't find time to watch the Indiana game and they lose, eh so what?  

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« Reply #1612 on: June 04, 2024, 07:20:56 PM »
Depends. Back in the day, before we had season tickets, we'd pay to watch a team of dead people play Wisconsin because that's what we could get.

Now?

Young fans don't care like we cared. They are not going. The game is dying.
My fav thing about college football was even if I was a neutral if there was a top 5 team in sept-nov fighting for their lives I had to watch. Or sometimes you get a couple upstarts a 6-1 vs 5-0 matchup and its great theater. 

Today....meh who cares if the No.1 team falls to an Oregon st/Pitt/BC/Purdue, chalk it up as a quality loss. Its almost as memorable as your team knocking off say No.1 Kentucky in the college basketball regular season. 

The fact a No.2 vs No.5 matchup will help determine WHO GETS HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE, just makes me die a little inside.  




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« Reply #1613 on: June 04, 2024, 08:33:35 PM »
home field is important
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« Reply #1614 on: June 04, 2024, 11:47:47 PM »



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« Reply #1615 on: June 05, 2024, 03:08:05 AM »
They don't allow mulligans at the Masters, why allow it in college football?

Oh, that's right, it wants to be the Waste Management Open.  Cool.
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« Reply #1616 on: June 05, 2024, 08:01:40 AM »
My fav thing about college football was even if I was a neutral if there was a top 5 team in sept-nov fighting for their lives I had to watch.
I feel the same way, I think most of us do.

ELA told a story from his youth of stopping a backyard football game and running inside because a highly ranked Ohio State was in danger of losing to an unranked Indiana. Note that this was in Michigan so probably none of the kids were fans of either the Buckeyes or the Hoosiers. 

I can't tell you how many times I've sought out a game to root against the Tide (sorry RTF), Gators (sorry OAM), Longhorns (sorry utee), etc because some top-ranked team was having a bad day and as the clock wound down they were in a dogfight with some random unranked opponent that they should have obliterated. 

As you said, even as neutrals we all "had to watch" because a surprise upset could completely reshape the NC race. 

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« Reply #1617 on: June 05, 2024, 08:03:30 AM »
They don't allow mulligans at the Masters, why allow it in college football?

Oh, that's right, it wants to be the Waste Management Open.  Cool.
Masters makes more on TV
Waste Management more on the gate and beer sales

a guy can shoot a crap score the first day of either tournament and still win it.
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« Reply #1618 on: June 05, 2024, 10:24:05 AM »
Seen a few articles lately that in part due to the upcoming changes to player pay (House Vs NCAA or some such) the rosters for CFB will need to be slashed.  No more 120 players per program with walk-on's out the wazzou.  It's in the early stages, but some say that this will be one of the biggest effects on the sport, and they're looking at capping the roster to about 50-60 players like the NFL.  

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« Reply #1619 on: June 05, 2024, 11:35:26 AM »
Yep, let's be a 2nd-rate NFL product. Brilliant.

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« Reply #1620 on: June 05, 2024, 11:47:48 AM »
Seen a few articles lately that in part due to the upcoming changes to player pay (House Vs NCAA or some such) the rosters for CFB will need to be slashed.  No more 120 players per program with walk-on's out the wazzou.  It's in the early stages, but some say that this will be one of the biggest effects on the sport, and they're looking at capping the roster to about 50-60 players like the NFL. 
I think it's the opposite. The push for roster restrictions is because scholarship restrictions are now meaningless, so hard caps of rosters are the only way to keep teams level.

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« Reply #1621 on: June 05, 2024, 02:58:13 PM »
Yep, let's be a 2nd-rate NFL product. Brilliant.


Yep.

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« Reply #1622 on: June 05, 2024, 04:19:11 PM »
College football and MLK Day, a tradition dating back generations

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« Reply #1623 on: June 05, 2024, 04:45:13 PM »
College football and MLK Day, a tradition dating back generations
 @Drew4UTk , an "LoL" button would be a great addition. I "liked" this but "LoL" would have been more appropriate. 

 

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