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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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Hawkinole

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1036 on: September 02, 2023, 02:35:05 AM »
I have posted how awful travel can be for ACC teams between San Fransisco and Miami, and Tallahassee.  Those flights are 5 hours 42 minutes. That said, such times are ordinary for the Iowa Conference, a/k/a America's Rivers Conference with schools scattered from Eastern Iowa to Omaha. Trips by bus are around 6-hours at the tangent schools.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1037 on: September 03, 2023, 08:34:47 AM »
May be an image of 1 person, playing football and text that says 'WHO DECIDED TO LET USC, UCLA, WASHINGTON, & OREGON JOIN THE BIG 10 mgflip.com'
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« Reply #1038 on: September 03, 2023, 09:52:04 AM »
This.
Near-sighted money grabs.  No master plan.  Just unfettered evolution.  That's how you wind up with cuddlefish, platypus, and narwhals. 


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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1039 on: September 03, 2023, 01:53:31 PM »
Losing the geography thing is something that bites us all.  I remember when the Braves were in the NL West and the Falcons were as well.

Maybe there is some chance over time of a Big Confab where they check back into conferences with some geographical sense to them.  Maybe.  Even the ACC has been a "stretch" and WVU in the B12 ...

SWC  SEC  ACC  Pac  Big Easterly

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« Reply #1040 on: September 03, 2023, 03:08:01 PM »
Looking back, it's funny.  The SWC decided to disband when the alternative was for everyone to stop cheating.
I know, I know, there's more to it.
But that's kind of a big part of it, no?
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« Reply #1041 on: September 03, 2023, 03:27:19 PM »
Looking back, it's funny.  The SWC decided to disband when the alternative was for everyone to stop cheating.
I know, I know, there's more to it.
But that's kind of a big part of it, no?
All joking aside, I believe the real reason the SWC conference disbanded is because everybody left.  Ark left for the SEC and Tex, Tex A&M, TT and Baylor left for the Big 8/Big 12.  TCU, SMU, Rice decided to join the WAC.  The only school left was Houston,  which decided to join a new conference called CUSA.  So the SWC just died. 

Of course one of the keys reasons they all left is that they believed they could not get a decent TV contract if they would have stayed together.  8 Texas schools plus Arkansas.  Not a lot of cable TV markets there for ESPN. 

The interesting thing is that 8 out of 9 SWC schools have now made it back to a P4 conference.  3 in the SEC.  4 in the Big 12.  1 in the ACC.  Only Rice has been left behind. 

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« Reply #1042 on: September 03, 2023, 07:30:17 PM »
Looking back, it's funny.  The SWC decided to disband when the alternative was for everyone to stop cheating.
I know, I know, there's more to it.
But that's kind of a big part of it, no?
No.

Both the SWC and the Big 8 were not economically viable when staring down the new television revenue contracts that the Big Ten and SEC were bringing in. 

That should sound familiar.

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« Reply #1043 on: September 04, 2023, 12:53:01 AM »
I started to re-think my opinion that FSU cannot leave the ACC until 2036 after the media rights contract expires. I haven't read the media rights contract, so this is one of the worst legal opinions, I could offer.
Over objections of NC, FSU, and Clemson, the ACC media rights changed. The travel requirements were modified, not just a little bit. If this is not covered in the contract, it will be a major blunder by those not seeking to exit the ACC, and if it is covered, who knows if the contract now can be upheld given the unreasonable travel requirements.

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« Reply #1044 on: September 04, 2023, 09:27:25 AM »
No.

Both the SWC and the Big 8 were not economically viable when staring down the new television revenue contracts that the Big Ten and SEC were bringing in. 

That should sound familiar.
ed zachery


and neither was the Big 12 long term
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« Reply #1045 on: September 08, 2023, 08:58:33 AM »
@OrangeAfroMan  I just had an idea for a new game you should create.

"Risk-- College Football Edition"

The gameboard is a map of the states of the USA and each player represents a conference, trying to take over every state.

I mean, you'd have to change the name and all due to copyright stuff, but it sounds like a million dollar idea.  You can donate my cut to the charity of your choice. 

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« Reply #1046 on: September 08, 2023, 09:08:17 AM »
I'll get right on it.

But the map would be uneven from the start.  OSU gets a big, populace state all to itself, while Mississippi and Iowa are divided in 2?  
Gimmie a break!  lol
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1047 on: September 08, 2023, 09:26:27 AM »
I'll get right on it.

But the map would be uneven from the start.  OSU gets a big, populace state all to itself, while Mississippi and Iowa are divided in 2? 
Gimmie a break!  lol
Yes, then you will have to come up with rules where suddenly a conference in the Midwest can somehow take over Southern California and a conference along the Atlantic coast can some how take over northern California. Not to mention how a P5 Pacific Coast conference can leave itself so vulnerable.

You have your work cut out for you.  Maybe for the first 10 turns you can only attack schools in a contiguous state and the conference can only have 10, then 12, then 14 members. Then suddenly the rules change and you  can attack anybody anywhere and have an unlimited amount of members.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1048 on: September 08, 2023, 10:06:23 AM »
That sounds like a shit game, to be honest. 

Sometimes I like games to be an escape from reality, not a simulation.


 

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