header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

 (Read 86391 times)

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25404
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #966 on: August 20, 2023, 11:47:02 AM »
Looking very likely that OrSU and WSU are going to join either the MAC or AAC (not ACC).

The bay area twins are seeking a home too, perhaps the ACC, but I doubt that happens. I'm not sure why they would even want to go to a conference that is destined to fail in 10 years or so.

Still could be a chance that the PAC can rebuild around the last four standing. I just can't see Stanford wanting to play in a conference with Boise State, but you never know.

Maybe they go Indy and do a national schedule. They'd probably have plenty of takers for scheduling.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18920
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #967 on: August 20, 2023, 11:58:51 AM »
Imagine your next recruiting visit if you're the HC at ORST or WSU.  What do you even say?
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71912
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #968 on: August 20, 2023, 12:24:59 PM »
Were I Stanford, I'd go independent.  You don't really need the money much.  They already fund a ton of nonrevenue sports.

Put yourself out there as an available "P5" opponent for H&A.  

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18920
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #969 on: August 20, 2023, 12:42:50 PM »
Best to be no threat and an easy W, too.

An independent Stanford should schedule 6 toughies and 6 cupcakes.  Get enough wins to not get a bad rep, but at the same time don't be a threat to beating anyone with actual aspirations.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #970 on: August 28, 2023, 12:33:24 AM »
The PAC teams Washington, Oregon, USC, and UCLA don't truly fit in the Big Ten, but by bringing these 4 together, it modestly cuts travel time for at least 3 of their games. I cannot possibly figure out how Stanford, California, and SMU could possibly fit in the ACC.  Maybe with supersonic air travel, but we don't currently have SSTs.

The PAC-12 is spread out. Los Angeles to Seattle is 1,135 miles driving distance. But the distances to Big Ten schools far exceed this distance. 

Athletes are already under tremendous time pressures with their athletic and educations scheduling; add excessive travel time and it is horrible for education. Take away regional rivalries, and it is bad for college football.

California, Stanford, and SMU to the ACC is a very bad idea.

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #971 on: August 28, 2023, 12:54:30 AM »
I am guessing part of the problem with the ACC not getting the reimbursement from media rights they would like has to do with the collapse of FSU football the past 15-years, the collapse of Virginia Tech football, and which left Clemson as the only power football program in the ACC. There is a relative lack of fan interest in football with the ACC teams not V-Tech, FSU, and Clemson as compared with fan interest in the Big Ten that are not tOSU, and Michigan. FSU is coming back, but has itself to blame for its recent demise.
In 1980, I recall my upstairs neighbor in Tallahassee asking about my interest in college football because I came from Iowa. I didn't at the time realize that outside of Iowa, people in general believed fan interest in Big Ten football and Iowa football would be high. I was from Iowa, not Michigan or Ohio. He was very interested in FSU football which was on the rise. 
Coming into 1980, Iowa had 19-consecutive nonwinning seasons, and yet he must have known about the culture of football fandom in the Midwest, generally, to have prompted that question. My interest in Iowa football was very high, but not rewarded, and I was not optimistic about Iowa football. But, then in 1980, the Hawkeyes won the Big Ten title (or tied) and were in the Rose Bowl. I don't get away enough.
FSU to the Big Ten is a remote possibility if west coast teams to the Big Ten are a reality. FSU is closer than the west coast.

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37706
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #972 on: August 28, 2023, 09:06:11 AM »
it was actually 1981, 

the only reason I remember is the Hawks upset the Huskers the first game of the season and went on to the Rose Bowl

my freshman year at UNL, being from Iowa
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #973 on: August 28, 2023, 06:23:58 PM »
it was actually 1981,

the only reason I remember is the Hawks upset the Huskers the first game of the season and went on to the Rose Bowl

my freshman year at UNL, being from Iowa
You are correct.

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #974 on: August 28, 2023, 06:39:19 PM »
I was on a rant because I have arrived at the conclusion this latest realignment of PAC-12 schools is bad for college football. I can understand Washington State and Oregon State being dropped because the fan base is not large enough to support the distributions the major schools want from their media rights. California and Stanford I think are better situated to be in a major conference, but just not the ACC.
How is it viable for any of these schools to go independent? What television network would they contract their television rights with? I suppose ION TV or Warner Brothers TV, would be viable. TBS has a national cable network, but there would be no local air time. Amazon streaming might be the direction we all end up going someday, but we aren't there, yet.  Stanford and California are left with very bad choices, and expensive, time consuming travel if they join the ACC.

Hawkinole

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #975 on: August 28, 2023, 06:48:12 PM »
If Notre Dame were a rational actor they would lobby for Stanford and California to join the Big Ten, with Notre Dame.  

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37706
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #976 on: August 28, 2023, 09:48:43 PM »
I was on a rant because I have arrived at the conclusion this latest realignment of PAC-12 schools is bad for college football. 
most of the realignment since the 90s has been bad for college football
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18920
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #977 on: August 28, 2023, 10:25:27 PM »
If Notre Dame were a rational actor they would lobby for Stanford and California to join the Big Ten, with Notre Dame. 
Idk why people keep expecting the 70 year old bachelor to get married...
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37706
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #978 on: August 28, 2023, 10:28:31 PM »
for the money
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18920
  • Liked:
Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #979 on: August 28, 2023, 10:35:24 PM »
You can't put a price on autonomy.

As long as they have a path to the party, it's worth it not to get hitched.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.