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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #924 on: August 15, 2023, 10:46:47 PM »

So... What's the point? What are half of the teams in the P5 P4 even playing for? Almost impossible to win your conference, and if you do it only gets you to the next stage of the meat grinder where you'll get pulverized into dust.

Might as well join the f%&^@g Peace Corps...
Been sayin' it fer years...
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #925 on: August 16, 2023, 08:47:18 AM »
Then you add huge conferences, CCGs, and the CFP. Now the lesser schools have almost no chance at backdooring their way into, for example, the Rose Bowl. And not only that, it diminishes the value of something like the Rose Bowl. Even if you backdoor your way into a conference championship (for example let's say that Michigan suffered a couple key injuries in the CCG and Purdue played out of their minds and squeaked to victory), the goal is an NCG and winning a CFP quarterfinal is hot garbage... And a team like Purdue will NEVER get beyond that sort of level. Not only that, if they scrap divisions champions getting into the CCG and make it top two teams, a team like Purdue will NEVER even backdoor their way into the CCG by winning a weak division.

So... What's the point? What are half of the teams in the P5 P4 even playing for? Almost impossible to win your conference, and if you do it only gets you to the next stage of the meat grinder where you'll get pulverized into dust.

Might as well join the f%&^@g Peace Corps...
This fascinates me, I guess because I had become so attuned to it already. After a few years of disappointing after preseason hype, I found the joy in just watching good teams. Or sometimes OK teams. Maybe there's some element of having tasted some pro sports disappointment, where a team finishing a game away from a title against a similar team didn't fill me with thrill that a title was close. It left me more mad that a chance to win was missed, and the contender was soon to atrophy. So if OSU or Michigan has a death machine, I understand the play. 

I suppose part of that was being around high schools for a spell. That world is a good reminder that sports basically always end in failure. There's a valuable lesson in that. That you can do the things you're supposed to, but someone else is probably more blessed than you, and ain't a damn thing you can do about it. But there's still something cool about going 9-3 and catching a buzzsaw in the playoffs. 

And it's funny because you could be say Auburn is a team that is in that other bucket, and it's not like that brings a different kind of joy. They're as miserable as ever.

(There are also a few random thoughts. The first is that the CCG is a really big factor. You lost participation trophies that did matter to folks. The other thought was that with Purdue last year, it wasn't just that it scrapped in, it was that it scrapped in with a team that was frankly not very good. Like, even if Purdue can't rock with a national title contender, there's no glass ceiling on fielding a top-45 quality team)

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #926 on: August 16, 2023, 09:05:21 AM »
UNL AD f'n Trev Alberta claims there will someday be one superconference with 35-40 of the biggest brands.

Football will be separated from other sports for this conference.

Who are these brands?
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #927 on: August 16, 2023, 09:21:53 AM »
I'd guess we'll see two superconferences (guess which ones) that basically will operate as one with the playoff.  The B12 will exist in between for a while.

Oh wait, we're nearly there.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #928 on: August 16, 2023, 09:27:27 AM »
UNL AD f'n Trev Alberta claims there will someday be one superconference with 35-40 of the biggest brands.

Football will be separated from other sports for this conference.

Who are these brands?

Boise State, SMU, Akron, South Florida, CalPoly, North Dakota State... you know, the usual suspects.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #929 on: August 16, 2023, 09:27:59 AM »
UNL AD f'n Trev Alberta claims there will someday be one superconference with 35-40 of the biggest brands.

Football will be separated from other sports for this conference.

Who are these brands?
Trev can give you the list
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #930 on: August 16, 2023, 09:45:04 AM »
Is Trev Alberta, related to Trev Alberts?  Perhaps his Canadian cousin?

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #931 on: August 16, 2023, 10:11:58 AM »
This fascinates me, I guess because I had become so attuned to it already. After a few years of disappointing after preseason hype, I found the joy in just watching good teams. Or sometimes OK teams. Maybe there's some element of having tasted some pro sports disappointment, where a team finishing a game away from a title against a similar team didn't fill me with thrill that a title was close. It left me more mad that a chance to win was missed, and the contender was soon to atrophy. So if OSU or Michigan has a death machine, I understand the play.
Yeah, I'm attuned to it. Which is why I have no rooting interest in pro sports. I watch just for the entertainment. There is no emotional attachment to any team. 

I'm now the same way with college sports. When I watch, it's purely for entertainment value. I have no emotional high nor low that comes from being attached to the outcome for either team. 

Some would say that my life is less rich because I've stopped seeking pleasure (in sports). I would say that it's more content since I've eliminated pain (in sports). 

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #932 on: August 16, 2023, 10:14:51 AM »
Yeah, I'm attuned to it. Which is why I have no rooting interest in pro sports. I watch just for the entertainment. There is no emotional attachment to any team.

I'm now the same way with college sports. When I watch, it's purely for entertainment value. I have no emotional high nor low that comes from being attached to the outcome for either team.

Some would say that my life is less rich because I've stopped seeking pleasure (in sports). I would say that it's more content since I've eliminated pain (in sports).

I hope I never get to this point.  But I fear it's coming.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #933 on: August 16, 2023, 10:19:19 AM »
Is Trev Alberta, related to Trev Alberts?  Perhaps his Canadian cousin?
Her name is Trev Alberta, and I can't stand her.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #934 on: August 16, 2023, 10:24:40 AM »
Wow, strong reaction.  I've never given Trev enough thought to have an opinion.

Only mediot I really can't stand, in that way, is Skip Bayless.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #935 on: August 16, 2023, 10:54:18 AM »
Agree on Bayless, which is odd considering his brother is so likeable...



Trev was a mediot too, and Trev plainly stated on several occasions (every chance Trev got) that the Big Ten was a crap conference.

Trev will likely never admit that the conference got crappier with the addition of Trev's school.

:96:

Trev can F right off.

Craig Jamie too.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #936 on: August 16, 2023, 11:32:31 AM »
Wow, strong reaction.  I've never given Trev enough thought to have an opinion.

Only mediot I really can't stand, in that way, is Skip Bayless.
yeah skip is so bad he made me like shannon sharpe 

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #937 on: August 16, 2023, 11:36:44 AM »
Oh yeah, I think many schools will be dropping football 20 years from now.

And not just the scrubs. 

College football attendance has been dropping for years now.  Younger generations show less and less interest.  New fans aren't being created at the rate they were 30-40 years ago when most of us were kids.

The sport is also going to change. CTE and other severe injury implications are only just now beginning to manifest.  I view the elimination of kickoffs as inevitable.  More and more rules to protect vulnerable players, shifting the sport much closer to a flag football version of itself.  So older fans begin to lose interest, too.

Loss of younger fans, loss of older fans, means diminishing revenues across the board.  At some point, flagging TV ratings and/or diminishing streaming revenue will make a lot of schools question-- is it worth it anymore?

THAT, is what will ultimately be College Football Armageddon.

(Maybe.  I'm just speculating here)
i think this is accurate. more and more parents aren't going to want their kids playing football because of CTE.

call me crazy but i think soccer could explode in popularity in the US in the next 20-30 years. seeing it happen in South FL right now with Messi. ticket sales and tv viewership has exploded for InterMiami and they are about to build a $1 billion stadium downtown off his back.

if they can actually figure out a way to get the very best players from Europe and South America into the MLS it will take off here. no one wants to watch the scrubs who can't cut it at the highest level. everyone wants to watch the best of the best compete.

 

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