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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #700 on: August 05, 2023, 12:44:24 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 05, 2023, 12:04:08 AM
In what way is it a community college?
Oregon is the lowest B1G school academically (or competing with Nebraska, if you wish).  
Ideally, you'd add a strong or at least average new program.  Washington is a mid-high academic B1G school, which works.  Stanford would have been a the top.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #701 on: August 05, 2023, 12:46:12 PM »
One thing that's been totally ignored is how adding Texas and A&M has strengthened the SEC's academic average.  Both are in that Florida tier of schools, below Vandy, but above Georgia.  That's a great add, based solely on academics.  

Idk where OU is, academically.  
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #702 on: August 05, 2023, 01:03:24 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 04, 2023, 03:22:37 PM
So is this for next season? Better redo those schedules. Honestly, I like the Pacific Northwest and this gives me an excuse to drag the family out there.
Just stay away from the parts that are fire. The arson kind. You'll be fine.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #703 on: August 05, 2023, 01:20:01 PM »
The ACC has pretty solid acadmic schools, especially undergrad, but I personally don't care, aside from having attended one of them.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #704 on: August 05, 2023, 02:41:14 PM »
Boy I read this one wrong. 

My comments about the quality of UO and the future of growth in the interior SW don't change, but I really didn't think that Oregon would go with YW.

The implosion of the Pac 12/10/8/PCC is the biggest one since the Seattle Kingdome.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #705 on: August 05, 2023, 03:02:44 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 05, 2023, 01:03:24 PM
Just stay away from the parts that are fire. The arson kind. You'll be fine.
Luckily it rains a lot.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #706 on: August 05, 2023, 04:17:27 PM »
For the past few years the Ute fans have been absolutely dunking on the Byu fans for joining the Big 12. "It's not even a P5 Conference without Texas and Oklahoma" they insisted. It will be funny to hear how they spin this.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #707 on: August 05, 2023, 05:43:15 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 04, 2023, 07:56:43 PM
yeah uhm but....they actually don't....

Fearless was correct.  They actually do.

These are the highest ranked schools for TV ratings for the 2022 season.

The numbers next to each school indicate the average number of viewers per week for a 12-week regular season.

1 Ohio State — 5.80M
2 Alabama — 5.11M
3 Michigan — 4.37M
4 Tennessee — 4.13M
5 Georgia — 3.50M
6 Notre Dame — 3.30M
7 LSU — 3.22M
8 Texas — 3.06M
9 Penn State — 3.05M
10 Clemson — 2.59M
11 Florida — 2.57M
12 Oregon — 2.21M
13 TCU — 2.20M
14 Southern Cal — 2.07M
15 Florida State — 2.03M
16 Nebraska — 1.98M
17 Michigan State — 1.91M
18 Texas A&M — 1.87M
19 Maryland — 1.864M
20 Auburn — 1.863M
21 Arkansas — 1.80M
22 Mississippi — 1.753M
23 Oklahoma — 1.748M
24 Oklahoma State — 1.68M
25 UCLA — 1.591M
26 Wisconsin — 1.587M
27 Iowa — 1.50M
28 Kentucky — 1.35M
29 Baylor — 1.32M
30 Kansas State — 1.23M
31 Indiana — 1.19M
32 Illinois — 1.17M
33 Utah — 1.16M
34 Washington — 1.15M
35 Northwestern — 1.13M
36 Mississippi State — 1.10M
37 Minnesota — 1.05M
38 BYU — 997K
39 South Carolina — 990K
40 Navy — 976K
41 Washington State — 907K
42 Iowa State — 882K
43 NC State — 881K
44 Purdue -870K
45 California — 857K
46 North Carolina — 849K
47 Stanford — 846K
48 Syracuse — 841K
49 Georgia Tech — 837K
50 Missouri — 793K
51 West Virginia — 774K
52 Kansas — 732K
53 Army — 681K
54 Texas Tech — 680K
55 Cincinnati — 653K
56 Pittsburgh — 650K
57 Oregon State — 625K
58 Rutgers — 618K
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #708 on: August 05, 2023, 05:52:30 PM »
Oregon was #12, USC #14, UCLA #25, and Washington #34 (Stanford was #47).

The only current B1G teams that had better TV ratings than Oregon and USC were Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.

The obvious prize still on the table is Notre Dame.  Doubt ND gives up it's independent status though.

If I was B1G king I'd kick out Rutgers and Indiana. Then add Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Florida State, and Miami.

That gives The B1G the DMV area, North Florida (great TV market) and South Florida (best recruiting in the country). 

That makes 20. B1G could go to a pod set up that rotates 4 pods with 2 divisions.

Then I'd force Notre Dame to split a TV contract.  The B1G would control 9/15 of their historical rivals (USC, Michigan ,Purdue, Michigan State, Northwestern, Miami, Florida State, Nebraska, Penn State).

Then sit back and let that sweet $$$ role in as The B1G cements it's place as one of the only two real super conferences.

This is an arms race.  Like it or not.  Either play the game or get left out and crumble.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #709 on: August 05, 2023, 06:14:46 PM »
Quote from: WhiskeyM on August 05, 2023, 05:52:30 PM
Oregon was #12, USC #14, UCLA #25, and Washington #34 (Stanford was #47).

The only current B1G teams that had better TV ratings than Oregon and USC were Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.

The obvious prize still on the table is Notre Dame.  Doubt ND gives up it's independent status though.

If I was B1G king I'd kick out Rutgers and Indiana. Then add Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Florida State, and Miami.

That gives The B1G the DMV area, North Florida (great TV market) and South Florida (best recruiting in the country). 

That makes 20. B1G could go to a pod set up that rotates 4 pods with 2 divisions.

Then I'd force Notre Dame to split a TV contract.  The B1G would control 9/15 of their historical rivals (USC, Michigan ,Purdue, Michigan State, Northwestern, Miami, Florida State, Nebraska, Penn State).

Then sit back and let that sweet $$$ role in as The B1G cements it's place as one of the only two real super conferences.

This is an arms race.  Like it or not.  Either play the game or gef left out and crumble.
I'm ALL for kicking out Rutgers. Sign me up for that.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #710 on: August 05, 2023, 06:33:59 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on August 05, 2023, 12:42:23 AM
I do not understand the finances behind their exploration of capital equity with JP Morgan, but they must be very serious about leaving the ACC. I am speculating that the best media deal for the Big Ten is to add Clemson or Miami, and FSU, not Stanford and Cal.
I didn't find my answer on this thread. I found an answer here: How media rights packages accelerated the Pac-12's collapse (msn.com)
The Big 12's media contracts incentivized them to expand, granting $31.7M for each P-5 team that is added. My conclusion from reading this article is that the Big 12's media contracts were devised in such a way the PAC-12 would be raided, and would collapse, saving the networks some money. The Big Ten had no similar incentive in its television contracts. It appears from this article the Big Ten is simply dividing up revenues from its existing media contracts and extending Washington and Oregon $30M per year through 2029 and then the Big Ten's media contracts, end.
Unless media contracts are renegotiated I would conclude the Big Ten will not expand further until after 2029, whereas the Big 12 could take on more P-5 schools.
This leaves Cal & Stanford in precarious positions. Stanford is not interested in joining the Big 12, because perhaps rightfully so, they are snooty. But, marriages these days are mostly temporary.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #711 on: August 05, 2023, 07:19:03 PM »

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« Reply #712 on: August 05, 2023, 07:25:59 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 05, 2023, 06:14:46 PM
I'm ALL for kicking out Rutgers. Sign me up for that.
and ucla
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« Reply #713 on: August 05, 2023, 07:28:16 PM »
Quote from: WhiskeyM on August 05, 2023, 05:43:15 PM
Fearless was correct.  They actually do.

These are the highest ranked schools for TV ratings for the 2022 season.

The numbers next to each school indicate the average number of viewers per week for a 12-week regular season.

1 Ohio State — 5.80M
2 Alabama — 5.11M
3 Michigan — 4.37M
4 Tennessee — 4.13M
5 Georgia — 3.50M
6 Notre Dame — 3.30M
7 LSU — 3.22M
8 Texas — 3.06M
9 Penn State — 3.05M
10 Clemson — 2.59M
11 Florida — 2.57M
12 Oregon — 2.21M
13 TCU — 2.20M
14 Southern Cal — 2.07M
15 Florida State — 2.03M
16 Nebraska — 1.98M
the only stat that matters to the accountants
$$$

those academic dumbfucks don't get it, but the networks do
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