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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #574 on: July 29, 2023, 08:39:22 AM »
It also means Midwest kids who may not want to leave their family for 4 years and have their family be unable to see them play their sport might accept offers from Miami knowing that they'll be coming back to the Midwest multiple times a year for games, and they get to party with bikini-clad South Beach denizens.

I could see this (and USC/UCLA) equally those schools in warmer climes being more able to strip recruits OUT of the Midwest than perhaps it might get Midwest schools access to those recruits to come from warm sunny places to the frozen tundra.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #575 on: July 29, 2023, 08:51:50 AM »
I still think for top recruits, these things are ancillary as compared to NIL and getting to the League in 3 years, couple that with syngery with the coaching staff and recent success and you probably have 95% of the decision (aside from legacies etc.).

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #576 on: July 29, 2023, 10:32:33 AM »
My guess is the elite 4 and 5 star guys considered other variables.
Of course. But it is *a* variable. How much weight do they give it? I don't know... Depends on the kid. 

For some kids, it might be the tipping point. He wants to go to South Florida or Los Angeles, but mom is whining about how she'll never get to see him play except on TV. Now he can has a little ammunition to help him get what he wants. 

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #577 on: July 29, 2023, 11:40:31 AM »
I think "mom" looks at the NIL deals and says "Take that one, I know it's a long way away, but you can buy me airplane tickets."


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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #578 on: July 30, 2023, 10:17:51 AM »
Wash and Ore suddenly have to consider should they pursue a Big 12 invite instead of patiently waiting for a Big Ten invite that may never come.

Accepting an invite to the Big 12 probably involves signing a GOR until 2029, which is when the current Big 12 media contract runs out.   Unless Wash and Ore could negotiate an escape clause in the specific case an invite to the Big Ten comes later.  But I am not sure the Big 12 would agree to that.  Especially if they could get other PAC schools like Utah or ASU to agree to a GOR without an escape clause.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #579 on: July 30, 2023, 10:21:07 AM »
Maybe the Big 12 forms two larger divisions, one for the west coast area and one in the middle.

They end up absorbing most of the Pac in effect.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #580 on: July 30, 2023, 10:45:05 AM »
Wazzu and Oregon State are gonna end up in the Mountain West.

I was thinking maybe Arizona too. Their hoops program would thrive in the MWC, and their FB program might actually win a conference championship.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #581 on: July 30, 2023, 11:20:22 AM »
Big 12 Pacific Division

Wazzu 
OrSU
ASU
UA
SDSU
Utah
Cal
BSU

Big 12 Central Division

TCU et al.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #582 on: July 30, 2023, 11:25:05 AM »
Would UCF and WVU be in the central?
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #583 on: July 30, 2023, 11:32:15 AM »
Um .....

Maybe they drop to the ACC residue ...  called the Big east.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #584 on: July 30, 2023, 12:13:46 PM »
I would say that right now Arizona is the #1 target to be team #14 in the Big 12.  That could change if Wash or Ore suddenly express interest, then the Big 12 might be willing to go to 16.  Otherwise they will stop at 14.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #585 on: July 30, 2023, 12:14:59 PM »
There might not be an ACC after the poaching is finally done.

ACC "football schools" are Pitt, VT, NCSU, Clemson, Florida State and Miami.

Maybe UNC too?? Louisville?
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #586 on: July 30, 2023, 02:17:03 PM »
Wash and Ore suddenly have to consider should they pursue a Big 12 invite instead of patiently waiting for a Big Ten invite that may never come.

Accepting an invite to the Big 12 probably involves signing a GOR until 2029, which is when the current Big 12 media contract runs out.  Unless Wash and Ore could negotiate an escape clause in the specific case an invite to the Big Ten comes later.  But I am not sure the Big 12 would agree to that.  Especially if they could get other PAC schools like Utah or ASU to agree to a GOR without an escape clause.
Washington and Oregon are a much better fit in a new B12 than the B1G.

B1G would be astoundingly stupid to ever invite Washington or Oregon in. It does not help the conference and the other teams in it, it only hurts. Would be even worse than adding Rutgers.

B1G should only be focusing on a handful of schools. ND, FSU, Miami, Stanford, UNC, and UVA. MAYBE GaTech & Clemson, but have more doubts about those two. And that's about the only schools they should be looking at, period.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #587 on: July 30, 2023, 02:23:43 PM »
There might not be an ACC after the poaching is finally done.

ACC "football schools" are Pitt, VT, NCSU, Clemson, Florida State and Miami.

Maybe UNC too?? Louisville?
I view those "football schools" as reasonable "gets," but UNC as sort of the crown jewel.  NC expands the footprint for either big-boy conference, it's population is booming, and there's the basketball component.  Combined with the academics, and it's pretty sexy.
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