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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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847badgerfan

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #532 on: July 28, 2023, 06:40:31 AM »
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #533 on: July 28, 2023, 06:43:41 AM »
We used to call teams either P5 or G5 (or battery teams), I think we're going to need a third designation.
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« Reply #534 on: July 28, 2023, 07:23:44 AM »
Some of these schools will find homes. I'm reading Oregon, Washington and Arizona State are poking around and that ASU is the next target for the XII.

Oregon State and Washington State will find a home in the Mountain West. Maybe Utah, Arizona and California too.

I still think the B1G will take Stanford.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #535 on: July 28, 2023, 09:54:24 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 28, 2023, 06:43:41 AM
We used to call teams either P5 or G5 (or battery teams), I think we're going to need a third designation.
After USC and UCLA left the PAC for the Big Ten,  alot of people starting splitting the P5 into 2 sub categories, P2 and M3.

P2 (SEC, Big Ten)
M3 (ACC, Big12, PAC)
G5 (MWC, AAC, SBC, MAC, CUSA)

Now that the Big 12 appears to have slightly edged ahead of the PAC,  you have to ask if the PAC is still P5/M3 worthy.  As long as the PAC loses nobody else, I am.guessiing they will still be called P5,  but if they lose anybody else, it's probably over for the PAC as a Powe conference.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #536 on: July 28, 2023, 10:12:31 AM »
I'm thinking how the Pac could survive IF they lost say UW, Oregon, and Stanford.  They'd be trying to add some sketchy programs at that point I think.
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« Reply #537 on: July 28, 2023, 11:22:48 AM »
SDSU and Fresno and Hawaii
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #538 on: July 28, 2023, 11:41:20 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 28, 2023, 10:12:31 AM
I'm thinking how the Pac could survive IF they lost say UW, Oregon, and Stanford.  They'd be trying to add some sketchy programs at that point I think.
The "PAC" may very well survive, but we've just dropped from the P5 to the P4. 
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« Reply #539 on: July 28, 2023, 12:04:10 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 28, 2023, 11:41:20 AM
The "PAC" may very well survive, but we've just dropped from the P5 to the P4.
Hang on a minute.

The PAC just lost its crappiest football member. I'd argue the PAC just improved.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #540 on: July 28, 2023, 12:25:30 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2023, 12:04:10 PM
Hang on a minute.

The PAC just lost its crappiest football member. I'd argue the PAC just improved.
I think this is just a domino. USC/UCLA started the trend, but the question would be if the rest of the conference would stick around in solidarity and try to soldier on. I think this is the first "no" answer to that question. 

They already had crap money. Now they're down to 9 from 12 with no viable schools to add. The B12 is making the move to strengthen. It's believed that the B1G has eyes on the remaining anchors of the PAC (UW/OU, or UW/Stan, or all 3 plus ND). The Arizona schools have little reason to stay; they aren't traveling to SoCal any more and there's not all that much commonality between AZ and PacNW. 

It's going to be a race to see who finds new homes and who is left out. 
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« Reply #541 on: July 28, 2023, 12:48:16 PM »
I think you grab Stanford at a discounted rate, and grab FSU. And that's it. 

Then wait on ND and Miami. 

Big news will be coming out of FSU in August, I've read.

Just a quick note about FSU and ACC relationship, future plans (247sports.com)
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #542 on: July 28, 2023, 01:42:07 PM »
FSU and Clemson still have 13 years remaining on their GOR to the ACC.  That's a lot more than the 3 years Texas and OU had left, and even then, Texas and OU only managed to escape one year early.

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« Reply #543 on: July 28, 2023, 01:58:52 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 28, 2023, 01:42:07 PM
FSU and Clemson still have 13 years remaining on their GOR to the ACC.  That's a lot more than the 3 years Texas and OU had left, and even then, Texas and OU only managed to escape one year early.


ESPN can be bought out. I hear Mickey could use some cash.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #544 on: July 28, 2023, 02:03:19 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2023, 12:48:16 PM
I think you grab Stanford at a discounted rate, and grab FSU. And that's it.

Then wait on ND and Miami.
Why would the BIG want Miami? good scholastically but no fanny's in the seats and not enough clicks on the tube IMHO. Grab VTech
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #545 on: July 28, 2023, 02:13:24 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 28, 2023, 02:03:19 PM
Why would the BIG want Miami? good scholastically but no fanny's in the seats and not enough clicks on the tube IMHO. Grab VTech
LOL what? The answer is more like why wouldn't they want Miami lol? Miami is probably the #1 school on the B1G wishlist, I'd imagine.

First off it's a great academic institution. Secondly as far as the region itself goes, the city of Miami is already a fairly large city and it is also one of the top 5 fastest growing cities in the US at the moment. You don't see this with cities that size typically. Miami may just be becoming the most important city in the US at the moment. The amount of businesses and wealth that is flowing into the city is insane. Transformational. The South Florida tv market is a massive market that brings lotta eye balls.

Oh yeah not to mention the #1 reason why they'd want a permanent presence in the area....CROOTIN'. South Florida is hands down far and away without question or competition the single most fertile talent rich area in the entire f'ng country for high school football talent and it's not close.
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