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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #196 on: May 21, 2023, 09:33:30 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 21, 2023, 09:22:48 AM
The new playoff will have guaranteed slots for the top six ranked conference champions ....  and we very easily could have only 4 half decent conferences left, that is two very good and two mediocre, and then two from "elsewhere", we're talking about teams with no real business being in the playoff, they could be ranked 16th and 24th.
I am OK with this as long as the conference champs are still in the top 25.  This makes for a more inclusive field with more nation wide appeal.  Especially if the alternative is the 5th place team in the SEC. 
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #197 on: May 21, 2023, 09:35:51 AM »
I think we'll hear some carping when the sixth best conference champ is some unranked G5 9-4 team ... and when the top four conference champs include one team that is 9-4 or 10-3 and ND is 12-0.

This all becomes more likely if the Pac or B12 go to mush and the ACC breaks apart.
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« Reply #198 on: May 21, 2023, 10:42:33 AM »
Whatever is the most entertaining that gets the fringe fans to tune in.  That's the best course of action. 
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #199 on: May 21, 2023, 11:07:07 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on May 21, 2023, 09:10:27 AM


the Big Ten is still hesitating because it does not want to be perceived as destroying the PAC conference.  



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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #200 on: May 21, 2023, 08:56:04 PM »
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37693310/big-ten-new-commissioner-television-deal-coaches-uncertainty?platform=amp

Trouble in Big Ten paradise.  The TV contract with NBC and CBS is not technically done.

Big Ten Admins and coaches are upset they were not consulted about playing sat night games in November. Sounds like Kevin Warren once again dropped the ball communicating with schools when making decisions.    But its wierd some AD"s are playing dumb now with this contract announced months ago.  How could any Big Ten school not be aware they were going to be asked to play some Sat night games on NBC in November? 

Also another twist is that the Big Ten  TV Rights are actually owned by BTN and Fox and not the Big Ten itself.  And Fox is upset that NBC got a Big Ten CCG that Fox did not sign off on.

Also TV networks decided to move the PSU-MSU game to Black Friday in 2023 before PSU actually agreed to it.
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« Reply #201 on: May 22, 2023, 07:24:42 AM »
Hey look! A B1G hit piece from ESecPN!!
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« Reply #202 on: May 22, 2023, 07:28:05 AM »
Such "hit pieces" are irrelevant if not true.  Maybe they get clicks.  

If this all comes down to the B1G VERSUS the SEC, life in CFB will get entertaining, or more boring depending.  The chest beating about whose conference is better gets old, for me anyway, folks slinging selective data across the way and ignoring anything contrary to that.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #203 on: May 22, 2023, 08:13:13 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on May 21, 2023, 08:56:04 PM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37693310/big-ten-new-commissioner-television-deal-coaches-uncertainty?platform=amp

Trouble in Big Ten paradise.  The TV contract with NBC and CBS is not technically done.

Big Ten Admins and coaches are upset they were not consulted about playing sat night games in November. Sounds like Kevin Warren once again dropped the ball communicating with schools when making decisions.    But its wierd some AD"s are playing dumb now with this contract announced months ago.  How could any Big Ten school not be aware they were going to be asked to play some Sat night games on NBC in November? 

Also another twist is that the Big Ten  TV Rights are actually owned by BTN and Fox and not the Big Ten itself.  And Fox is upset that NBC got a Big Ten CCG that Fox did not sign off on.

Also TV networks decided to move the PSU-MSU game to Black Friday in 2023 before PSU actually agreed to it.

For me it's more of another Kevin Warren is an idiot example. 
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #204 on: May 22, 2023, 08:17:58 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 07:28:05 AM
Such "hit pieces" are irrelevant if not true.  Maybe they get clicks. 

If this all comes down to the B1G VERSUS the SEC, life in CFB will get entertaining, or more boring depending.  The chest beating about whose conference is better gets old, for me anyway, folks slinging selective data across the way and ignoring anything contrary to that.
Not IF.

It's already there.
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« Reply #205 on: May 22, 2023, 08:18:21 AM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on May 22, 2023, 08:13:13 AM
For me it's more of another Kevin Warren is an idiot example.
Terrible hire.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #206 on: May 22, 2023, 08:57:47 AM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on May 22, 2023, 08:13:13 AM
For me it's more of another Kevin Warren is an idiot example.
Yes,  the article paints a picture that Big Ten Admins and coaches did not know there was going to be Sat night games in November,  when it's clear the new TV contract calls for that.

I think what they are really saying is that when the TV contract was being negotiated,  the universities never were consulted about giving up this clause to not play on Sat Night in November.  So in their minds they never gave up that clause.  Still in the end,  every single University President signed off on the contract.  So who is really the bad guy here?  I still say Kevin Warren for not doing a thorough job just like COVID.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #207 on: May 22, 2023, 09:02:14 AM »
Saturday night games were going to be worth some BIG $$$

so, regardless of the communication, it was going to happen

probably just more bitchin than anything else

we all know TV networks set the schedule and time slots for kickoffs
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #208 on: May 22, 2023, 09:03:40 AM »
I've noted before that the "State" schools in general are "also runs" (there are three exceptions that come to mind).  If the two main conferences pick up the "University of" programs, the various State schools appear to be headed for ... G5osity?

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #209 on: May 22, 2023, 09:30:22 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 07:28:05 AM
Such "hit pieces" are irrelevant if not true.  Maybe they get clicks. 

If this all comes down to the B1G VERSUS the SEC, life in CFB will get entertaining, or more boring depending.  The chest beating about whose conference is better gets old, for me anyway, folks slinging selective data across the way and ignoring anything contrary to that.
Regardless of motives,  the article had a lot of details.  It gives new insite to why the Big Ten has pushed the pause button on further expansion.  There are still a lot of issues from the new TV contract that Kevin Warren never sorted out.    He had almost a year to fine-tune the contract and sounds like he accomplished nothing in that time.

Although to be fair,  this is also a sign of how when conferences get bigger,  the harder it is to keep every one happy.  It is also a sign that schools don't want to give up their rights until they are desperate.  It is also a sign it's harder to get a school that averages 100k on a Sat afternoon to move their games. 

And sounds like PSU, Mich, MSU and OSU were getting picked on especially with these new night games or Black Friday games in 2023,  when I think the expectation was for USC and UCLA to get more of the Sat night home games in Nov, which may become true in 2024.
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