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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #182 on: May 20, 2023, 10:57:35 AM »
But also, metro Atlanta is probably the 2nd-most fertile recruiting grounds in the southeast, maybe nationally.  So while NJ/NYC, etc are relatively meh there, GT gets you in to a sort of FL-light.  
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #183 on: May 20, 2023, 11:00:00 AM »
Oh, and a related fun fact:  Lincoln is only 300 miles further from LA than Seattle is.  So while it is a timezone thing, UW isn't "close" to USC/UCLA.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #184 on: May 20, 2023, 11:05:34 AM »
But also, metro Atlanta is probably the 2nd-most fertile recruiting grounds in the southeast, maybe nationally.  So while NJ/NYC, etc are relatively meh there, GT gets you in to a sort of FL-light. 
NJ produces a lot of talent, actually.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #185 on: May 20, 2023, 01:14:31 PM »
I doubt adding GaTech really allows other programs better access to metro ATL players.  The 4 and 5 star guys all know about OSU and UM anyway, and they largely won't think about Purdue or NW either way.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #186 on: May 20, 2023, 04:03:04 PM »
I doubt adding GaTech really allows other programs better access to metro ATL players.  The 4 and 5 star guys all know about OSU and UM anyway, and they largely won't think about Purdue or NW either way.
Then I guess every move to expand a conference's footprint has been a waste of time.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #187 on: May 20, 2023, 04:03:25 PM »
NJ produces a lot of talent, actually.

Been great for my UW. Dayne, Anthony Davis, Corey Clement, JT23. PJ Hill was from NY.
Relatively a lot, sure.  But not actually a lot.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #188 on: May 21, 2023, 12:52:14 AM »
I doubt adding GaTech really allows other programs better access to metro ATL players.  The 4 and 5 star guys all know about OSU and UM anyway, and they largely won't think about Purdue or NW either way.
Hmmm. 

You’d have the “they’ll possibly play in your hometown once every two years” bit. 

Of course, ATL is deeply over-recruited, so you’re picking at leftovers. Badgers got a nice receiver out of Ga a few years back. Joked with a friend down south about why: if he had ideal high or speed, he would’ve never escaped the local schools. 

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #189 on: May 21, 2023, 05:55:31 AM »
The reason to add another program is money, not recruiting advantages.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #190 on: May 21, 2023, 08:40:39 AM »
Hmmm.

You’d have the “they’ll possibly play in your hometown once every two years” bit.

Of course, ATL is deeply over-recruited, so you’re picking at leftovers. Badgers got a nice receiver out of Ga a few years back. Joked with a friend down south about why: if he had ideal high or speed, he would’ve never escaped the local schools.
He was committed to another program to play hoops. UW stole one there, and then he found trouble. Recently found more trouble, and now his NFL career is toast.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #191 on: May 21, 2023, 08:54:06 AM »
Any hot bed for HS athletes will be recruited heavily, duh, and you have major football programs within a ~two hour drive of ATL.  Adding Tech MIGHT have some financial benefit (I don't see it), but as an aid to recruiting, I don't see that beyond some possible minimal benefits.

Once you get past UGA/Bama/Auburn/Clemson/FSU ... you mostly are looking at dregs, or a player with some familial tie to your program.  Might an elite WR choose OSU?  Sure, be he would anyway.


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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #192 on: May 21, 2023, 09:04:48 AM »
Lots more diamonds in the rough in the SE than there are up North.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #193 on: May 21, 2023, 09:06:29 AM »
Sure, and they are tough to spot, and I don't see that adding a GaTech aids in doing that at all.  If some 2 star player is getting offers from Georgia Southern et al. and one comes in from Wisconsin, he's likely to be quite interested in the latter.  Adding Tech to the B1G doesn't affect that at all.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #194 on: May 21, 2023, 09:10:27 AM »
Start at 24:02


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFVaM-F6J-g&t=1442s

These guys are saying that the Big Ten has secured the TV money to add Wash, Ore, Stan and Cal if it wants to.  The key is CBS and NBC have agreed to pay the bulk of the money because starting in 2024 CBS will have the 3:30 ET game and NBC will have the Sat night game.  So that's when the PAC teams will most likely play.  FOX on the other hand would not increase its pay since it will be broadcasting the early Big Noon game.

But knowing this,  the Big Ten is still hesitating because it does not want to be perceived as destroying the PAC conference.  But if the Big 12 wants to destroy the PAC,  the Big Ten is OK with that.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #195 on: May 21, 2023, 09:22:48 AM »
The new playoff will have guaranteed slots for the top six ranked conference champions ....  and we very easily could have only 4 half decent conferences left, that is two very good and two mediocre, and then two from "elsewhere", we're talking about teams with no real business being in the playoff, they could be ranked 16th and 24th.

 

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