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imo my bottom line for B1G expansion is Miami & FSU or don't expand at all. Getting into SoCal was huge for the future of the conference. Getting into Florida would be even bigger.

Adding Washington or Oregon would be complete nonsense. Neither brings anything of value to the table at all.

I could argue their increased status brought in better recruits which made their coaches look good and attractive to major programs.

Yeah, but the increased status comes from being in a better conference, so their competition also got better than they were in G5. 

From a recruiting angle, they probably had a leg up on other Ohio schools for in-state athletes that would have been good enough to get recruited by the flagship university in any state where Ohio State (blue blood who recruits nationally) isn't the flagship university in the state lol...

Yes to all of this.

It's at 16 now, and the end game is supposedly 24. That leaves 6 more spots if Miami and FSU join the fold.

ND would be the next obvious target. Maybe Virginia next. That's 20.

VT, UNC, Clemson.

GT? Got the East Coast covered from NJ to FL.

Skip Georgia? OK, take Pitt? Similar problem to GT in that the city they are in doesn't care about them. Already have that problem with Northwestern, and UCLA even. Miami would fit into that grouping, but B1G fans down here would change this. Maybe for UCLA too. Lots of alums in FL and CA.

NC State could be the answer here.

I was thinking the same about B1G alums filling Florida stadiums. There are a LOT of retired midwesterners in Florida so I'm guessing every Miami home game against Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, etc would be packed with Nittany Lions, Buckeyes, Wolverines, etc.

I was thinking the same about B1G alums filling Florida stadiums. There are a LOT of retired midwesterners in Florida so I'm guessing every Miami home game against Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, etc would be packed with Nittany Lions, Buckeyes, Wolverines, etc.

Lots of Badgers down here too.

Gatorama told me there were more OSU alumni in the ATL area than any place in the US except Columbus, or maybe he said the Alumni Club here is second biggest.  It's not unusual to see someone sporting OSU/UM gear here.

Georgia Tech has some potential, I think, it has some history, it's just way down right now.  I don't think they can get back short of some miracle.  I doubt it adds much beyond serving as a local site for OSU fans to watch their team play.

I'm not a fan of any #2 in their state program.

In the B1G we already have:

• M/MSU in Michigan
• IU/PU in Indiana
• IL/NU in Illinois

I don't think that GaTech is ever going to surpass UGA in terms of fan support in Georgia so I'm against it.

Virginia is a tougher call. I think VaTech has more CFB fans and UVA has more CBB fans but I don't live there and I'm mostly just guessing. I REALLY enjoy my trip to tOSU at VaTech a few years ago but I'd probably lean toward UVA anyway due to proximity to DC which is the source of most of the research money.

In North Carolina there are four "P5" schools which is 2-3 too many. I'd ignore Wake, Dook, and NCST and invite UNC.

I don't know South Carolina very well. I've visited but not for long. How does fan support there divide between USCe and Clemson? Also, not just now (with Clemson enjoying the best run in their history) as opposed to more generally?

I *MIGHT* consider an exception for Florida for three reasons:

• It is a VERY populous state. They recently surpassed NY and are now the third most populous behind only CA and TX. Their population of 22.2M is almost double that of current B1G states PA (13), IL (12.6), and OH (11.7).
• As discussed, there are a LOT of B1G alums and fans in Florida.
• Florida is VERY fertile recruiting territory.

I have zero interest in ISU, Pitt, or Cincy.

Once a conference adds someone, the other conference reacts ... and it spirals basically out of control for a while.

If the B1G seriously got into it with FSU and/or Miami, the SEC would HAVE to do whatever they had to in order to grab UNC and/or UVA.  And probably get greedy and add NC State and Va Tech, too. 
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Those FSU and Miami players won't be enthused about playing B1G road games in November, I can tell you that much.

might as well get used to the crap weather in college than having to learn how/adapt to it when you get drafted by an NFL team in say the AFC North or NFC North and have to play in Lambeau, Buffalo, Gilette, or MetLife in December and January all the time...