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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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Cincydawg

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #140 on: May 17, 2023, 11:15:02 AM »
Maybe west coast fans would support a good CFB program, but not with the fervor we see in the East.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #141 on: May 17, 2023, 11:28:13 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on May 17, 2023, 10:51:22 AM
The new B12 is getting much better TV deals than the PAC leftovers, so... why would the B12 teams agree to that?
They wouldn't. Especially when the XII grabs ASU, AZ, UU and UC. They will also take some ACC leftovers. And maybe Memphis?? I don't know enough about that school.

Red means states already in. Blue means possibilities.


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« Reply #142 on: May 17, 2023, 12:41:31 PM »
If the ACC blows up, what about schools like Dook and Wake? Do they give up football and go to the Big East?

I could see the XII taking GT, NCSU, Laville for all sports.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #143 on: May 17, 2023, 12:45:15 PM »
The ACC also has Boston College with a rather sparse CFB history.  If someone cherry picks the ACC, the dregs will scramble for something akin to the Big East.  They'd be nice for UMd and Rutgers as well ...

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #144 on: May 17, 2023, 12:47:37 PM »
And Syracuse. Nobody will want them.
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« Reply #145 on: May 17, 2023, 12:52:58 PM »
and Rutgers
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #146 on: May 17, 2023, 12:55:58 PM »
Does Syracuse play football?
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« Reply #147 on: May 17, 2023, 01:00:52 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 17, 2023, 12:55:58 PM
Does Syracuse play football?
Yes, in the Carrier Dome with no AC.
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« Reply #148 on: May 18, 2023, 01:34:14 PM »
I didn't realize Carrier was a sponsor until my late 20s.  Assumed it was a donor.

The ACC leftovers would strenthen the AAC and drift off into mediocrity.  
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I had always assumed it would be the XII vs ACC for survival.  I underestimated the lack of expansion options for the PAC and had no earthly clue the B1G was poaching it.
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« Reply #149 on: May 18, 2023, 02:11:21 PM »
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #150 on: May 18, 2023, 05:46:50 PM »
Sooner or later all schools end up at the level they should be.  Whether that conference is called the PAC or the Big 12 does not really matter.  Who is in that conference is what matters.

Ok, maybe occasionally a Vanderbilt or Wake Forest slips through,  but sooner or later,  they mostly get left behind.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #151 on: May 19, 2023, 09:14:41 AM »
A thing I noticed about Cincinnati when they joined the Big East way back us they got better, quickly.  I think going from G5 to P5 enhances recruiting, immediately.  Players who would have gone to Miami/Akron/Kent/Ohio now had a good reason to go to UC.

Utah may have done the same kind of thing.  I THINK if you bump say San Diego State to a "P5" they COULD get better quickly and be competitive.  So, adding teams like Memphis/Houston/Cincy could be a good thing in a few years, e.g., some of them would turn into Utah or Cincy.  

(Cincy of course did well with Fickell, their trajectory now is less clear to me.)
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« Reply #152 on: May 19, 2023, 09:42:12 AM »
Yes,  Cincy has been incredibly successful hiring great coaches,  Dantonio, Brian Kelly, Luke Fickel, etc. in its rise over the last 20 years to the Big 12,  but ultimately lost them all to programs with bigger bucks and more prestige.  Here's hoping someday Cincy will have the money and status to keep its next successful coach.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #153 on: May 19, 2023, 09:51:09 AM »
I could argue their increased status brought in better recruits which made their coaches look good and attractive to major programs.
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