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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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bayareabadger

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« Reply #2268 on: Today at 11:27:22 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 11:21:47 AM
81 San Diego State 24,770

58 California 39,173

54 Fresno State 40,600

49 UCLA 46,805

19 USC 71,571

I'll throw Tech in there for comparison, large university, large metro area, attendance perked by visiting fans often as not ...

61 Georgia Tech 38,216
Well how can that be? People in Georgia love football. And Atlanta has a lot of people. 
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« Reply #2269 on: Today at 11:30:45 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on Today at 11:26:31 AM
Major metros are by and large bad for CFB. I assume California would lag in this category no matter what. But the very structure of where its schools are and what they are all but determines their fate, which is fine and interesting.
Interesting observation.  Maybe Columbus, OH is the largest metro with a high level of CFB interest?  USC has decent attendance, but not in comparison to metro size.

Miami?  Nope.  Atlanta?  Philly?  Detroit?  Chicago?  NYC?  Boston?  Dallas, Houston, Denver ... Is Colorado in the Denver metro area?

Phoenix might be a contenduh.  but nope.  Seattle?  

20 Washington 66,220
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« Reply #2270 on: Today at 11:31:47 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on Today at 11:27:22 AM
Well how can that be? People in Georgia love football. And Atlanta has a lot of people.
Another team in the state has done pretty well of late, I suspect their bandwagon is replete.

Atlanta also contains a LOT of "Yankees" who like teams like Ohio State and Missouri.....
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« Reply #2271 on: Today at 11:32:05 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on Today at 11:26:31 AM
Ahhh, and now we’re getting somewhere even better.

Those top two Texas brands aren’t in major metros. And there’s a good chance their growth as brands exists in no small part because they’re not in major metros.

Major metros are by and large bad for CFB. I assume California would lag in this category no matter what. But the very structure of where its schools are and what they are all but determines their fate, which is fine and interesting.

USC and Stanford used to sell out huge stadiums.  They don't anymore.  Why?
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« Reply #2272 on: Today at 11:34:23 AM »
It's already proven by attendance numbers and television ratings, that Californians don't care about college football, at least relative to other regions.

So why?  Why did Stanford used to sell out 90,000 seat capacity back in the golden era, and why do they not, anymore?  

Something changed.  What is it?
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« Reply #2273 on: Today at 11:34:47 AM »
With 2.4 Million people, I'd call Austin metro pretty large.
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« Reply #2274 on: Today at 11:36:04 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on Today at 11:34:47 AM
With 2.4 Million people, I'd call Austin metro pretty large.
Yup.  Unfortunately.  My ongoing campaign is a failure.
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« Reply #2275 on: Today at 11:40:07 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 11:30:45 AM
Interesting observation.  Maybe Columbus, OH is the largest metro with a high level of CFB interest?  USC has decent attendance, but not in comparison to metro size.

Miami?  Nope.  Atlanta?  Philly?  Detroit?  Chicago?  NYC?  Boston?  Dallas, Houston, Denver ... Is Colorado in the Denver metro area?

Phoenix might be a contenduh.  but nope.  Seattle? 

20 Washington 66,220

Seattle is probably the outlier. Austin is like Columbus, but both are university anchored areas.

Arizona State has always seemed like people think it could do more.

And it makes sense. If you’re the main game in town, you have game days, and it all flows from there. 

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« Reply #2276 on: Today at 11:41:25 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on Today at 11:32:05 AM
USC and Stanford used to sell out huge stadiums.  They don't anymore.  Why?
Well the cost of living has shot thru the roof everywhere so X TWO in Cali. Their laid back culture seemingly had went woke plus there has been an exodus of smart responsible business and tax paying types that had had enough. Being blunt on average folks could afford much more of the American Pie in the '70s/'80s/'90s even up to 8-9 yrs ago. This has been a financial tsunami not windfall
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« Reply #2277 on: Today at 11:43:30 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on Today at 11:41:25 AM
Well the cost of living has shot thru the roof everywhere so X TWO in Cali. Their laid back culture seemingly had went woke plus there has been an exodus of smart responsible business and tax paying types that had had enough
So cities with populations of 13 million and 3.3 million just don't have enough people because everyone is moving out? :)
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« Reply #2278 on: Today at 11:44:42 AM »
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« Reply #2279 on: Today at 11:47:16 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on Today at 11:43:30 AM
So cities with populations of 13 million and 3.3 million just don't have enough people because everyone is moving out? :)
well there's an addendum.Great middle class positions have been scavanged not much left most folks are going thru a very serious white knuckle affair
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« Reply #2280 on: Today at 11:47:54 AM »
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« Reply #2281 on: Today at 11:48:06 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on Today at 11:32:05 AM
USC and Stanford used to sell out huge stadiums.  They don't anymore.  Why?
Define used to for Stanford.

USC for a good long while was the only football they had. It also was more consistently good in a time where selling tickets was easier. In the end, it’s a private school in a big city reliant on sidewalk fans. That’s hard to run when you’re not the center of the sport.

(They also made a push to improve academics to a degree that may have diluted the football interested population)
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