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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1554 on: May 24, 2024, 10:58:09 AM »
A failed commish, no less.
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« Reply #1555 on: May 24, 2024, 12:54:47 PM »
I have known a few folks in life who truly thought some secret group of a handful of folks ran everything in the world, or nearly so.  They were SO secret I of course didn't know about them, but the folks did, and would enlighten me.  They used various terms, depending on the folk:

The Bilderbergs were popular.
Masons of course.
The Pope et al.
Club of Rome.
Some folks in some forest somewhere.
The Rothchilds (who make pretty good wine anyway)
The Group of Five, or Four, or Seven, depending.
Bill Gates and Warren Buffett (the latter of course made his money on serve yourself restaurant places)
I'm not suggesting some crack-pot conspiracy theory deal here.  
Yes, it's a few world leaders.
A few billionaires.
People like Mitch McConnell.  A turtle-looking ancient fucker from Kentucky has probably held more power the last 20 years than the presidents have.  
The people who regulate what goes into our food, what our kids watch on TV, etc.
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Basically the handful (or two handfuls for you semantic-distracting trolls) of people who are successful keeping the status quo and move on from it when and only when they're ready and say so.
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Is this not plain to see?  
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« Reply #1556 on: May 24, 2024, 12:58:54 PM »
No, it's not plain to see, by me anyway, at all, not even remotely.  To me, it's some facile conspiracist silliness akin to "chemtrails".

If some "few" run the world, I would think it would have to be autocrats with almost unlimited power and folks we could name beyond McConnell and a "few world leaders", most of whom have clearly limited powers and influence.  

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« Reply #1557 on: May 24, 2024, 01:26:26 PM »
You think they'd be blatantly obvious, as if anonymity isn't a preference.  
Mkay.

And you're suggesting being worth tens of billions of dollars isn't akin to having unlimited power?  
Mkay.

Have fun in that bubble of naivety.  
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« Reply #1558 on: May 24, 2024, 01:33:55 PM »
Given that quite a few individuals have tens of billions in net worth, and many of them have opposing views of what they'd like to see happen, and GOVERNMENTS have inputed wealth and a military far in excess of what any billionaire has ...  

Folks think corporations are too large,  fine.  Walmart has a market cap of half a trillion dollars, wow, amazing.  Completely dwarfed by the US government's annual budget outlays.  

So, no billionaires do not have unlimited powers, the notion is amusing.  Neither does Mitch McConnell.  If Bill Gates for example had unlimited powers, he'd certainly be using that omnipotence to do a lot of stuff differently.  He's trying to do some rather small things with his billions and largely being only very slightly successful in small areas.

Governments are vastly more powerful than billionaires.  

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« Reply #1559 on: May 24, 2024, 01:35:49 PM »
Who said they weren't? 

You have a habit of having conversations with yourself.

Countries have steering wheels and certain people are behind the wheel while others are not. 
Influence.
Better yet, quiet influence is true power.  Not OH OH LOOK AT ME, I'M THE BOSS.
It's easier to play someone when they don't know you're doing it.
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« Reply #1560 on: May 24, 2024, 01:41:40 PM »
And you're suggesting being worth tens of billions of dollars isn't akin to having unlimited power? 
Mkay.

Have fun in that bubble of naivety. 
I do not at all believe having tens of bllions is akin to having unlimited power.

The notion to me is puerile and baseless and silly, not to mention naive.

I also don't think some secret cabal runs the world.

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« Reply #1561 on: May 24, 2024, 01:46:28 PM »
No, it's not plain to see, by me anyway, at all, not even remotely.  To me, it's some facile conspiracist silliness akin to "chemtrails".

If some "few" run the world, I would think it would have to be autocrats with almost unlimited power and folks we could name beyond McConnell and a "few world leaders", most of whom have clearly limited powers and influence. 
ignorance is bliss, as they say.

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« Reply #1562 on: May 24, 2024, 01:47:13 PM »
I'm not suggesting some crack-pot conspiracy theory deal here. 
Yes, it's a few world leaders.
A few billionaires.
People like Mitch McConnell.  A turtle-looking ancient fucker from Kentucky has probably held more power the last 20 years than the presidents have. 
The people who regulate what goes into our food, what our kids watch on TV, etc.
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Basically the handful (or two handfuls for you semantic-distracting trolls) of people who are successful keeping the status quo and move on from it when and only when they're ready and say so.
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Is this not plain to see? 
this is plainly obvious to see. it's shocking to me how people love keeping their head in the sand and their hands up their asses playing grab ass. 

who's being naive kay. 

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« Reply #1563 on: May 24, 2024, 01:50:34 PM »
Yeah sure.  It’s amusing I guess. 

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« Reply #1564 on: May 25, 2024, 09:40:39 PM »
we know that money can be an influencer 

even at the national or international level



the question is, how much and how often does it happen

and do a few billionaires get together to have more weight than individually

It's a great mystery 

To think Elon or Steve Jobs wouldn't try to use their  money to influence world leaders to give their products and ideas advantages is naive 
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« Reply #1565 on: May 26, 2024, 07:36:03 AM »
I fully agree billionaries have far more influence than I do.  So do many elected officials, including Mitch McConnell.  That isn't the issue, at all.

Bill Gates is out there spending his money to "make the world better" as he sees it, maybe he is sincere.  Koch is out there spending money to do the same by influencing the political process, the two have opposing views on most things.  Arthur Blank spends his monies on sports teams, and hospitals with his name on it.  That's a fair bit of influence around here.

Then you have autocrats of major countries like Russia and China with a lot of influence, their aims are pretty much opposed to leaders in the Western world, who have influence.  The Pope has influence over most Catholics, it's of a different kind of course.

You have a lot of folks with influence, but their aims often compete and contrast.  No smallish group of them "run the world". 
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« Reply #1567 on: May 26, 2024, 09:46:42 AM »
I figured out who rules the world.  It's not the Masons, or the Rothschilds, or the Bilderbergs, or the Club of Rome, or the Gang of Five, or the Premier of China.



It's the Egg Lobby.  And Mitch McConnell, who secretly has major egg interests.  That is why we see movies like Rocky extolling the virtues of eating eggs.

 

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