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Mdot21

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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2021, 09:49:18 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on September 15, 2021, 12:53:31 PM
Yes, somewhat... But it will be muted as long as the Rams and the Raiders are halfway decent--and both appear to be for the moment.

Then there's the Chargers... They're like the Clippers. Even when they're good, nobody cares.
Funny you say that, because I have a friend that is from LA originally, he's lived in 3 different states over the last 20+ years and he's still a diehard Raiders fan.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2021, 09:52:10 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 15, 2021, 02:07:29 PM
It's weird to look back at his MSU run. On the one hand, it took five years to get them pretty good. On the other, do we think he would've just dropped back to 7-5 if he stayed. Or would he have kept going?
He took over a dumpster fire at MSU and flipped the script. He was recruiting at a high level snagging elite recruits like Jeff Smoker, Charles Rogers, Plaxico Burress, TJ Duckett, and Julian Peterson. That's just off the top of my head- and those guys were OMGEEERG FIVE STARZZZZ of their era. Everyone of them were big-time national recruits and would be considered "5 Stars" today. 

Is MSU recruiting like that right now? Have they been recruiting like that since he left? Hell no.

I think he would've kept it going, but I do know he got sick of being second fiddle in his own state to Michigan. I believe he's even spoken openly about this.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2021, 09:53:09 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 15, 2021, 03:03:30 PM
I don't think he would have kept going. Can't recruit to MSU like you can to LSU and Bama.
Never betting against Nick Saban when it comes to college football. He'd have figured it out imo.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2021, 10:58:32 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 15, 2021, 03:03:30 PM
I don't think he would have kept going. Can't recruit to MSU like you can to LSU and Bama.
You don't have to, since you're only playing Indiana and Rutgers.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2021, 12:25:41 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on September 15, 2021, 09:49:18 PM
Funny you say that, because I have a friend that is from LA originally, he's lived in 3 different states over the last 20+ years and he's still a diehard Raiders fan.
Raiders fans are a rare breed.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2021, 02:13:19 PM »
Dan Patrick says James Franklin and USC have a mutual interest in the Trojans' head coaching job.  As far as I know Franklin has not refuted the rumor.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2021, 02:16:28 PM »
James Franklin? 
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2021, 02:16:36 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on September 16, 2021, 12:25:41 AM
Raiders fans are a rare breed.
I live with one.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2021, 02:18:03 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 16, 2021, 02:16:28 PM
James Franklin?
My mistake.  Will correct above.  He looks like a Dennis.  The Auburn @ PSU line has moved a little towards Auburn.
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2021, 02:39:44 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 16, 2021, 02:13:19 PM
Dan Patrick says James Franklin and USC have a mutual interest in the Trojans' head coaching job.  As far as I know Franklin has not refuted the rumor.
I dunno the were some primo positions come open in the last few yrs and he didn't leave or wasn't asked.He's a PA. guy to and has established recruiting and H.S ties.The main campus is in the hood and the commute would be a deal breaker but stranger things have happened
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2021, 02:49:00 PM »
Scott Frost might be interested

he's seems more suited for the PAC
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2021, 07:42:54 PM »
Would Nebraska be interested in Frost being interested?
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2021, 09:40:36 PM »
many fans would be

no way to know about the admin or decision makers 

but, it's possible
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Re: USC fires Clay Helton
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2021, 08:05:29 AM »
Stability is important in a program. Can't keep firing coaches. Need 4-5 years to build and change culture. 

The transfer portal does no good in achieving this, unfortunately.
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