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Mdot21

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Urban to Tejas?
« on: November 27, 2020, 05:17:04 PM »
Texas boards reporting Hermann is finished. One guy they all seem to be clamoring for: Urban.

Urban would make his Florida/OSU powerhouse teams look like light weights if he landed in Austin imo. Austin is a way nicer college town/city than either of those cities, no offense- and quite frankly he'd be able to get whoever the F he wanted out of Texas and California and then go take top kids from Florida, Georgia, Carolinas, and everywhere else like he's always done.

They have the money it would take. Would the Texas higher-ups be up for it though? Would Urban even go back to coaching? Urban at Texas would be something crazy to see.
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2020, 05:24:05 PM »
Matt Campbell is already there.  Don't let him leave town.
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2020, 05:32:11 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 27, 2020, 05:24:05 PM
Matt Campbell is already there.  Don't let him leave town.
he's #1 on my replace Harbaugh list. But I don't think Harbaugh is leaving. 

If I was Texas I would just throw like $12 million a year at Urban and give him a fully guaranteed 5 year contract. 

They are guaranteed 1 Chip in those 5 years if they do that. 
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2020, 05:34:27 PM »
Matt Campbell is basically another Tom Herman-- upsets some good teams, loses to teams he has no business losing to.  This ISU team lost to ULaLa just two months ago.

I'm certainly done with Tom Herman.  He is what he is, he's had plenty of talent, and he has demonstrated his ceiling.

I don't know if Urban Meyer wants to coach again.  I don't know if he wants to coach at Texas.

I think if you're Texas' AD, you certainly make a competitive offer and make him tell you no.

I honestly don't get excited about any other coaches that are being mentioned.  I don't think any of them have any more upside than Tom Herman.

Sucking sucks.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 05:55:01 PM by utee94 »
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2020, 05:42:00 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 27, 2020, 05:34:27 PM
Matt Campbell is basically another Tom Herman-- upsets some good teams, loses to teams he has no business losing to.  This ISU team lost to ULaLa just two months ago.
Not sure I agree with that.

Herman went 22-4 at Houston, playing in the AAC, against mostly tomato cans. He had two years of being a head coach, at a small program in a horrible conference. He looked promising, but there really wasn't a lot to go on there.

Campbell has been at Iowa State since 2016, and has already been named Big 12 coach of the year twice. He's coaching in a much tougher conference against much tougher teams than Herman did at Houston. And aside from his really bad first year at 3-9, Iowa State has gone 8-5, 8-5, 7-6, and are now 7-2 (7-1 in conference). And he's done this at Iowa State- in a Power 5 conference- and at one of the toughest places in the country in the P5 to win at. Iowa State is the #2 team in it's own state- a state that produces virtually no talent. Any 5*, 4*, or high 3* kid from Iowa that gets an Iowa offer- more likely than not goes to Iowa. And there is very few of these FBS D-1 type recruits in Iowa year after year. Campbell is working magic at Iowa State.

Herman is at Texas, with every advantage under the sun, and he can't even outperform Campbell.
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2020, 05:56:04 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 27, 2020, 05:42:00 PM
Not sure I agree with that.

Herman went 22-4 at Houston, playing in the AAC, against mostly tomato cans. He had two years of being a head coach, at a small program in a horrible conference. He looked promising, but there really wasn't a lot to go on there.

Campbell has been at Iowa State since 2016, and has already been named Big 12 coach of the year twice. He's coaching in a much tougher conference against much tougher teams than Herman did at Houston. And aside from his really bad first year at 3-9, Iowa State has gone 8-5, 8-5, 7-6, and are now 7-2 (7-1 in conference). And he's done this at Iowa State- in a Power 5 conference- and at one of the toughest places in the country in the P5 to win at. Iowa State is the #2 team in it's own state- a state that produces virtually no talent. Any 5*, 4*, or high 3* kid from Iowa that gets an Iowa offer- more likely than not goes to Iowa. And there is very few of these FBS D-1 type recruits in Iowa year after year. Campbell is working magic at Iowa State.

Herman is at Texas, with every advantage under the sun, and he can't even outperform Campbell.

Campbell lost to ULaLa.  You're welcome to him, I sure as shit don't want him at Texas.
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2020, 05:56:11 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 27, 2020, 05:17:04 PM
Texas boards reporting Hermann is finished. One guy they all seem to be clamoring for: Urban.

Urban would make his Florida/OSU powerhouse teams look like light weights if he landed in Austin imo. Austin is a way nicer college town/city than either of those cities, no offense- and quite frankly he'd be able to get whoever the F he wanted out of Texas and California and then go take top kids from Florida, Georgia, Carolinas, and everywhere else like he's always done.

They have the money it would take. Would the Texas higher-ups be up for it though? Would Urban even go back to coaching? Urban at Texas would be something crazy to see.
Would UM be successful at UTA?  Sure.  But we can do without the hyperbole, lol.

His winning % at Florida and OSU was .860.  He already has the best career win% in the post-WWII era.  He's not going to magically win every game as HC of Texas.

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2020, 05:58:17 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 27, 2020, 05:56:04 PM
Campbell lost to ULaLa.  You're welcome to him, I sure as shit don't want him at Texas.

He also beat Texas last year 2 years in a row.  At Iowa State.  You're right, he's beneath you 'Horns.
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2020, 06:00:10 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 27, 2020, 05:34:27 PM
Matt Campbell is basically another Tom Herman-- upsets some good teams, loses to teams he has no business losing to.  This ISU team lost to ULaLa just two months ago.
Eh, except Tom Herman did it in a Group of Five conference, at the school with the most history, in the best location, within that conference.

Matt Campbell did it in a Power 5 conference, at a school with the least history, in arguably the worst location, within that conference.

Hell, even if he just makes Texas into Iowa State, that's an improvement
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2020, 06:00:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 27, 2020, 05:58:17 PM
He also beat Texas last year.  At Iowa State.  You're right, he's beneath you 'Horns.
It's not that at all.  The list of coaches that have beaten Texas over the past decade is long and not particularly distinguished.  The entire point is that a guy like Campbell is just a sideways move.  Why fire a .600 kind of coach just to hire another .600 kind of coach?  What's the point?
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2020, 06:02:08 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 27, 2020, 06:00:10 PM
Eh, except Tom Herman did it in a Group of Five conference, at the school with the most history, in the best location, within that conference.

Matt Campbell did it in a Power 5 conference, at a school with the least history, in arguably the worst location, within that conference.

Hell, even if he just makes Texas into Iowa State, that's an improvement
This is a really silly statement.  Look at their winning percentages in the B12.  We play a roundrobin every year, so that's a comparison against the exact same competition.  Is Texas' B12 record over the past 4 years significantly different than ISU's?
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2020, 06:06:35 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 27, 2020, 06:00:18 PM
It's not that at all.  The list of coaches that have beaten Texas over the past decade is long and not particularly distinguished.  The entire point is that a guy like Campbell is just a sideways move.  Why fire a .600 kind of coach just to hire another .600 kind of coach?  What's the point?
Who ya going after?  Saban?
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2020, 06:07:55 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 27, 2020, 06:06:35 PM
Who ya going after?  Saban?
The thread title is "Urban to Tejas" and that is the discussion at hand.

Why, you know something I don't about Saban?  is he looking to leave?  I could be convinced to allow Texas to hire him.
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2020, 06:13:46 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 27, 2020, 05:56:11 PM
Would UM be successful at UTA?  Sure.  But we can do without the hyperbole, lol.

His winning % at Florida and OSU was .860.  He already has the best career win% in the post-WWII era.  He's not going to magically win every game as HC of Texas.
Might be hyperbole. Might not be. 

I could easily see Urban recruiting at an insane level, instantly, and winning a chip or two within 5 years and dominating a Big 12 conference that isn't as strong as the SEC/B10 conferences he so thoroughly dominated. Who will be his competition? Oklahoma doesn't play any defense. He'll lapse them instantly, and after that, it's slim pickens. 

He'd also be able to recruit California and Louisiana much better than he ever did at Florida or Ohio State due to proximity alone.
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