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MaximumSam

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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2018, 02:16:45 PM »
Watching the press conference.  It is kind of surreal - I really got into college football when I was in law school and Tress was coach.  I've lived in Columbus ever since and it's something how ingratiated the coach gets into everything.  Tress was everywhere, and then we had a blip with Fickell and then Urbs was everywhere.  So now Ryan Day is the head coach.  He's a couple months younger than me, too.  

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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2018, 02:19:46 PM »
Meyer has never had a QB like Haskins or a WR corps as deep. Not saying the receivers they have are the most talented. There's no Michael Thomas' or Percy Harvin's on that unit. It's just the deepest he's had 1-5 maybe ever. Day re-tooled that offense and went pass heavy and it's paid off. When you have a QB like Haskins and receivers as deep as OSU's- you use them.
No question about it...struggling to run the football when you have that WR corps, and a QB who isn't especially nimble, would be foolish. That said, my comments on continuity are accurate regardless; they handed the keys to the guy who did the retooling. 

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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2018, 02:27:22 PM »
 All he's got to do is fire Schiano and go hire a legit DC that's not stuck in 1999 and Ohio State will just keep humming along.
Alex Grinch IMO will do a good job,every year @ WSU with Leach his defenses improved noticeably for 3 seasons.Schiano has been making some questionable personal moves I wish him luck but hopes he moves on
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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2018, 02:30:23 PM »
Also, remember to throw a few cookies to the tOSU OL; their pass pro down the stretch was excellent, and allows everything else to happen. 

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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2018, 02:50:23 PM »
Meyer has never had a QB like Haskins or a WR corps as deep
2014-15 WR Corp was sick.Devin Smith/Michael Thomas were fantastic.Noah Brown/Jalin Marshall very good.Evan Spencer,Corey Smith,Johnny Dixon(injured) were good in rotation.Shame Devin Smith ripped up his knee twice in the league.Parris Campbell didn't consistently hang on to the rock until this season.Chris Olave has been a pleasant surprise but Trevon Grimes a 5* recruit moved back to Fla.Austin Mack is good but has been injured,Benjamin Victor has been shaky.Terry McClaurin and KJ Hill have been pretty good possession receivers.So the wide outs 3-4 yrs back were better across the board
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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2018, 03:24:06 PM »
2014-15 WR Corp was sick.Devin Smith/Michael Thomas were fantastic.Noah Brown/Jalin Marshall very good.Evan Spencer,Corey Smith,Johnny Dixon(injured) were good in rotation.Shame Devin Smith ripped up his knee twice in the league.Parris Campbell didn't consistently hang on to the rock until this season.Chris Olave has been a pleasant surprise but Trevon Grimes a 5* recruit moved back to Fla.Austin Mack is good but has been injured,Benjamin Victor has been shaky.Terry McClaurin and KJ Hill have been pretty good possession receivers.So the wide outs 3-4 yrs back were better across the board
And the difference this year is that the QB can actually get the ball to them without having the receiver stop his route and have to come back to get it. 

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Re: Urban Retiring?
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2018, 03:35:03 PM »
Just wanted to give him props as one of the best all-time.  I hope his health improves and he can enjoy retirement.

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« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2018, 03:40:18 PM »
I think the most unfortunate thing is that Urban's remarkable achievements have been so overshadowed by what Saban has been doing down in Tuscaloosa.  In Meyer's seven years the Buckeyes have:
  • 85-9 record, second to Bama's 90-8
  • Seven B1G Divisional titles (Every. Single. Year.)
  • Three B1G titles (out of six possible because they were ineligible in Meyer's first year)
  • One NC
  • Two CFP appearances
  • Annual records of 12-0, 12-2, 14-1, 12-1, 11-2, 12-2, and either 13-1 or 12-2.  Think about that, his worst year was 11-2.  
  • B1G Conference Records under Urban have been 8-0, 8-0, 8-0, 7-1, 8-1, 8-1, and 8-1.  No other team even comes remotely close to that.  
  • Final AP rankings of #3, #12, #1, #4, #6, #5, and they are currently #5 so the worst case scenario this year is ~ #8.  Think about that, in the last seven years Ohio State has finished outside the top-10 exactly once.  
  • Ohio State has been ranked in all 113 AP Polls since Urban was hired.  Only Bama matches that with Clemson and OU (109) close behind.  
  • Ohio State has been ranked in the top-10 of 94 of the 113 AP Polls since Urban was hired.  Only Bama (111) exceeds that and nobody else is even close (Clemson is 3rd with 76).  
  • Ohio State has been ranked in the top-5 in 61 of the 113 AP Polls sine Urban was hired.  Only Bama (103) exceeds that and only Clemson (60) is even close (Oregon is fourth with 41).  
  • Ohio State has been ranked #1 in 11 AP Polls since Urban was hired.  Only Bama (72) and FSU (12) exceed that.  

This has been an absolutely remarkable period for Ohio State Football and I hope we don't let Alabama's accomplishments take anything away from that.  Really, if you take away the odd Fickell year the run that Ohio State has been on since Tressel's second year is flat out amazing:
Final AP Poll ranking:
  • #1 2002
  • #4 2003
  • #20 2004
  • #4 2005
  • #2 2006
  • #5 2007
  • #9 2008
  • #5 2009
  • #5 2010
  • nr 2011
  • #3 2012
  • #12 2013
  • #1 2014
  • #4 2015
  • #6 2016
  • #5 2017
So in the last 16 years Ohio State has finished unranked once, 20th once, 12th once and in the top-10 13 times.  

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« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2018, 03:48:12 PM »
the Gators probably felt the same way

who's next?

Maybe Urban lands in the ACC or SEC in a couple seasons, so he can slide through with 8 conference teams and four cupcakes on the schedule
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« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2018, 03:51:10 PM »
Yep. We just witnessed the best era in school history, and a lot of Buckeye fans were too blinded by Bama envy to enjoy it. 

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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2018, 04:39:58 PM »
I have a feeling Urban will be back at Texas or USC.

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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2018, 04:49:48 PM »
I have a feeling Urban will be back at Texas or USC.
Possibly.  I don't think he's going to be a hired gun and he will take some time off.  He will of course be bandied about for every head coaching job that ever comes up, kind of like Gruden was.  But after he does the announcing and plays the golf, and I have a hard time seeing him staying retired.  Notre Dame is the obvious place that we know he's fond of and he famously chose not to go to because he didn't think he could win there.  But now that's he's won I doubt that's as big a motivator.  Of course, Brian Kelly isn't old and is in the playoffs, so the job has to come open for him to consider it.  I could also see him coming back to OSU if Ryan Day doesn't work a la Bill Snyder.  I would be surprised if he just heads for a place like USC in a year, though.  

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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2018, 07:52:17 PM »
And the difference this year is that the QB can actually get the ball to them without having the receiver stop his route and have to come back to get it.
True dat,but they got rolling in '14 with 12 Gauge under center
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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2018, 08:44:21 PM »
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I am.

If Meyer ever becomes a head coach, again, hopefully he'd take a lower-level job (eg. Cincinnati - his alma mater) where he would be highly successful, similar to how Fresno State got Tedford, where he also went to school, after he had his time at California, and he's done very well there, winning the MWC this year.

I'm sure Ohio State will still be very good, but I'm surprised they just promoted Day, when they could've hired some much more proven head coaches (Mark Stoops, Dino Babers, Luke Fickell, Matt Campbell would all presumably take the job if offered.... There was even a rumor about Bob Stoops this morning).

There are definitely many instances where promoting someone to the head coach job works out well, but I don't think it's a coincidence that over half of the coaches fired this year (and probably most years) were first time head coaches, whereas under half of this year's head coaches were in their first head coaching job. It's not a significant difference, but it's definitely somewhat riskier.
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