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Cincydawg

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #938 on: November 17, 2022, 03:43:00 AM »
They'll consider money, money, and money, ....
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #939 on: November 17, 2022, 09:27:10 AM »
Take USC, Stanford, Oregon and Washington from the PAC.

Take Miami and FSU from the ACC.

It's out there that Warren wants to get to 24.

ND, UVA, UNC and GT round that out.
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« Reply #940 on: November 17, 2022, 09:43:22 AM »
Clemson?
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« Reply #941 on: November 17, 2022, 10:59:40 AM »
They are more SEC material.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #942 on: November 17, 2022, 11:03:13 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2022, 09:27:10 AM
Take USC, Stanford, Oregon and Washington from the PAC.

Take Miami and FSU from the ACC.

It's out there that Warren wants to get to 24.

ND, UVA, UNC and GT round that out.

That's not even a conference anymore.  It's a giant cluster of teams who say they're in the same conference.  There wouldn't be any meaningful similarity of schedule tying them together.  
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #943 on: November 17, 2022, 11:28:28 AM »
It starts to look like a megaconference somewhat akin to the NCAA in which a variety of small "conferences" reside.  If you get to say 24 teams, I think you're at least two conferences, maybe three due to geography.
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« Reply #944 on: November 17, 2022, 11:39:35 AM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on November 17, 2022, 11:03:13 AM
That's not even a conference anymore.  It's a giant cluster of teams who say they're in the same conference.  There wouldn't be any meaningful similarity of schedule tying them together. 
The SEC will do the same thing by poaching ACC and Big 12 schools.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #945 on: November 17, 2022, 11:46:06 AM »
The cheapest ticket for the SEC CG on SH is $404, nosebleed of course.

For the ACC CG, it's $67.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #946 on: November 17, 2022, 12:08:53 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2022, 09:27:10 AM
It's out there that Warren wants to get to 24.
Warren is involved, but it is the television networks who control realignment, subject to approval of the university presidents.
This is somewhat reminiscent of when the AFL started out. In the early 1960s the AFL attracted some good players but most noteworthy players went to the NFL. The NFL was on CBS. The AFL was on NBC. I presume that as the AFL started to get more fans, and more money from NBC, better players could be brought in. Following the 1966 season the competing leagues created the AFL-NFL Championship Game to create more interest and make more money. Because the leagues were separate and competing against each other in separate drafts for players, the NFL did not want to give the AFL legitimacy. I am sure the TV networks had something to do with creation of the first Super Bowl. In fact CBS and NBC each broadcast the AFL-NFL Championship game which later became known as the first Super Bowl.
Can you imagine a model for a playoff in college football that pits the Fox Sports/NBC/CBS football teams against the ESPN/ABC football teams? We could have these big 24-team conferences aligned with their TV network(s) who each run their own playoff to determine who plays in the championship game. 
A 24-team conference seems unwieldy.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #947 on: November 17, 2022, 12:24:28 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2022, 09:27:10 AM
Take USC, Stanford, Oregon and Washington from the PAC.

Take Miami and FSU from the ACC.

It's out there that Warren wants to get to 24.

ND, UVA, UNC and GT round that out.
If you had to go that route and don't think the BIG should leave Miami and take VTech,good school/venue/fans
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #948 on: November 17, 2022, 01:05:30 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2022, 11:39:35 AM
The SEC will do the same thing by poaching ACC and Big 12 schools.

Don't see many teams there that add value, other than Texas and Oklahoma, which we're already getting.  The point would be the same though....why even bother calling it a conference?  Several geographically close or historically linked schools will play each other and then somehow sort out who wins the "conference."  It won't be very different than what we have now with bowls/playoffs.  
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #949 on: November 17, 2022, 01:06:18 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 17, 2022, 12:24:28 PM
If you had to go that route and don't think the BIG should leave Miami and take VTech,good school/venue/fans
Perhaps. I was more thinking of recruiting.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #950 on: November 17, 2022, 01:09:24 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on November 17, 2022, 01:05:30 PM
Don't see many teams there that add value, other than Texas and Oklahoma, which we're already getting.  The point would be the same though....why even bother calling it a conference?  Several geographically close or historically linked schools will play each other and then somehow sort out who wins the "conference."  It won't be very different than what we have now with bowls/playoffs. 
Agree.

For 8 more in the SEC, it might look something like this - assuming my projected B1G targets were to come true:

WVU
VT
NCSU
Dook
Clemson
TTU
oSu
Kansas
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #951 on: November 17, 2022, 01:13:18 PM »
14 is a bit much for me and 16 will already be too much for me, as currently formatted with east and west divisions.  But I like the models I've seen for doing away with divisions and giving each team 3 permanent rivals and rotate across the rest of the schools home and away every 4 years.  We'd be playing every SEC team at least half the time, which is better than what we have now.  I hope we do that instead of pods, or just having 8-team divisions. 

That doesn't work, of course, if the league were to go beyond 16.  
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