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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #854 on: August 19, 2022, 01:15:30 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2022, 01:13:21 PM
The thing about this is that this new TV deal sets the price for Disney and the SEC.

Can Disney afford it? What else would they have money for?

The SEC has already negotiated its contract with Disney.

Of course, that was a year before the announced addition of Texas and Oklahoma, so I suppose it might be renegotiated...

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #855 on: August 19, 2022, 01:17:59 PM »
Right, and then they will add four more to get to 20.

Can Disney afford this?

The B1G has a clause to up the money as it adds schools. ND would be the biggest money, of course. From what I gather, every school on the expansion list has a price with it. Money per school cannot be decreased. It's interesting.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #856 on: August 19, 2022, 01:25:26 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Right, and then they will add four more to get to 20.

Can Disney afford this?

The B1G has a clause to up the money as it adds schools. ND would be the biggest money, of course. From what I gather, every school on the expansion list has a price with it. Money per school cannot be decreased. It's interesting.

I think it's also a legitimate question to ask, can the three networks actually support this new B1G/NFL business model?  It's pretty clearly a last gasp effort from the major broadcast networks that DON'T have significant cable or streaming presence, to maintain live sports content OTA (and in NBC's case, drive subscriptions to Peacock, which I don't expect will make much difference).  They're substantially over-paying for the product and they fully understand that risk, which is why the contract is only 7 years.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #857 on: August 19, 2022, 03:09:14 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 19, 2022, 12:57:07 PM
That seems to be where it's headed.

There are even some traditionalists that are now embracing the idea of huge "super-conferences" because in practice, what that will almost invariably look like, is smaller subsets of teams playing each other. And the most logical way to determine those smaller subsets, is geographically.

So the future state could very well end up looking a lot like the past state, just with all schools under one or two umbrellas, rather than 5 or 7.
I think it should be three major conferences.  One West Coast Centric, One East Coast Centric, and one that is a mix of SouthEast and Midwest.  Kick out the Vanderbilts and TCU's and any school that doesn't meet certain criteria.  One of which should be attendance.  
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #858 on: August 19, 2022, 03:39:07 PM »
The current football powers are kind of in a line from south to north centered on about Atlanta.    I don't know if anyone else is more than 100 miles from that line except Oklahoma.  ND might be close.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #859 on: August 19, 2022, 11:35:24 PM »
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #860 on: August 19, 2022, 11:49:40 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Right, and then they will add four more to get to 20.

Can Disney afford this?
Is this a serious question?  

Disney could afford to buy all of college football.  Hell, I'm pretty sure Disney bought Thailand already.  If we colonize Mars, guess what your neighborhood will be called:  Disney Gardens.


GTF outta here with that question.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #861 on: August 20, 2022, 07:59:11 AM »
When one asks if X can "afford" something, they often mean "Would it be a rational deal for X to buy Y", not whether X could scrape and borrow and hedge to come up with the money.   One might presume largish companies have some massive amount of cash on hand, but often they don't, or if they do have some cash, it's going to be used for a specific something, perhaps a stock buyback, or in this case, expanded or new theme parks.

So, the real question is whether Disney wants to allocate this much money for football, said briefly, "Can they afford it?".

Their market cap is over $200 billion, which certainly sounds like a lot.  Of course, Apple is nearing $3 trillion, so there is that.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #862 on: August 20, 2022, 08:12:58 AM »
Sarge comes off the bench with a very interesting nugget — Rutgers, Maryland and Nebraska are in talks with the Big Ten to “address previous financial inequities” upon joining the league.



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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #863 on: August 20, 2022, 08:20:46 AM »
LMAO.

"Don't let the door hit ya..." would be the first response.

UNL back to the XII. UMD back to the ACC. RU back to
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #864 on: August 20, 2022, 08:27:13 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 19, 2022, 11:49:40 PM
Is this a serious question? 

Disney could afford to buy all of college football.  Hell, I'm pretty sure Disney bought Thailand already.  If we colonize Mars, guess what your neighborhood will be called:  Disney Gardens.


GTF outta here with that question.
Yes, it is.

Shares are down 40 percent over the last 18 months. 

It has not bought Thailand. It has no means to get to Mars.

Fact-based discussion is welcome here.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #865 on: August 20, 2022, 08:27:58 AM »
If USC and UCLA are getting full shares from Day 1 then I'd say they have a legitimate complaint.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #866 on: August 20, 2022, 09:00:56 AM »
OAM evidences a rather odd view of corporations, to me anyway, one that is grounded more in fantasies than reality.  To him, they are all evil, awash in bucks, and able to buy anything on a minor whim.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #867 on: August 20, 2022, 09:01:17 AM »
They all signed their own deals. Nobody forced them to apply for membership, or sign the contracts.
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