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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #840 on: August 19, 2022, 08:51:01 AM »
^^^^^

The above is important.  Some of the initial speculation was that Fox would always get first pick, the way CBS does for the SEC.  And since Fox loves their Big Noon, that would mean that Ohio State and Michigan would be doomed to that noon/11 AM game forever and ever.

But if they rotate, that will mean that the biggest name-brand games will have shots to be on CBS at 2:30/3:30, and presumably NBC at night, as well.
That's the time they prefer to play it. I remember when it got moved to the 3:30 slot one year, and the coaches and fans went ape shit. 
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« Reply #841 on: August 19, 2022, 09:01:44 AM »
Well I wasn't talking specifically about that one game, but rather any games.  For ratings purposes, whoever gets first pick is going to like to take Michigan and Ohio State and to a lesser extent Penn State.  So if Fox always got first pick, then an unusually high percentage of their games would end up at noon/11 AM.

But it definitely seems like you BiG folks don't hate that noon/11 AM timeslot as much as the rest of the country.  I suppose it's because it's noon local time for a lot of the games, but that one hour wouldn't make a whole lot of difference to me.  I really dislike any kickoffs before 2:30 to be honest.  And in Austin, all games before October, really should be night kickoffs.  But TV broadcaster don't give a shit about harming the fans in the stands...

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« Reply #842 on: August 19, 2022, 09:12:17 AM »
I always liked the early kicks back when I was going to games. We always got to the tailgate at the same time no matter the game time, so for a night game.. long day for a guy who didn't drink alcohol before games.

So, 11AM and you're back at the tailgate by 3 or so, to watch more games on TV and drink at will. Make dinner, watch more games, and then back to the hotel.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #843 on: August 19, 2022, 09:19:57 AM »
I prefer noon games when it's a near pastry, watching at home.  The west coasters probably don't like them much.  I remember being in Hawaii when UGA played Auburn and the game was over before I realized it had started.


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« Reply #844 on: August 19, 2022, 10:32:03 AM »
But it definitely seems like you BiG folks don't hate that noon/11 AM timeslot as much as the rest of the country.  I suppose it's because it's noon local time for a lot of the games, but that one hour wouldn't make a whole lot of difference to me.  I really dislike any kickoffs before 2:30 to be honest.  And in Austin, all games before October, really should be night kickoffs.  But TV broadcaster don't give a shit about harming the fans in the stands...
The one thing that Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa fans all agree on is that 11 AM kickoffs are too damn early. Games in that slot should be reserved for the Eastern Time Zone.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #845 on: August 19, 2022, 10:51:07 AM »
Just more regents and politicians being blowhards.  Not sure how they're going to hold UCLA retroactively to a rule that didn't exist when they made the choice.  That's got "court case" written all over it, and I'm pretty sure none of them actually want to end up in court.

Much ado about nothing.

It’ll be an uphill battle for CA regents to keep UCLA from leaving.  “John Sandbrook, who was chief of staff to former UC president Mark Yudof, says any attempt by regents to block UCLA's move to the Big Ten could have massive fallout” – from the LA Times:

“…regents trying to thwart a business transaction properly made by a university chancellor under his delegation of authority could have a chilling effect on future transactions of any type with a third party for all 10 UC campuses.”

“The debate over UCLA’s ability to unilaterally switch conferences centers on a 1991 UC system policy that delegated authority to campus chancellors to execute their own contracts, including intercollegiate athletic agreements. Charlie Robinson, general counsel for the UC system, said during the regents meeting Wednesday that the board chairman could supersede that authority.

“To protect itself from similar quandaries in the future, UC system leadership has proposed new rules that could limit campuses from making major decisions involving athletics contracts on their own. The regents are expected to vote on the proposal at their September meeting in San Diego.”

“Sandbrook questioned whether the regents had the legal authority to retroactively rescind Block’s decision that had been communicated to Michael V. Drake, president of the UC system. Moreover, Sandbrook wondered if the regents wanted to invite the sort of chaos that intervening in this matter would create.”

“If the regents set the precedent that any action taken under delegations of authority can be undone by the board,” Sandbrook said, “any loan agreement for a new campus building, the acceptance of a gift, the naming of a building — all of those matters would then be subject to question.”



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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #846 on: August 19, 2022, 10:55:53 AM »
I agree this is posturing, by the governor, the regents, and my uncle Festus.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #847 on: August 19, 2022, 11:30:05 AM »
Well I wasn't talking specifically about that one game, but rather any games.  For ratings purposes, whoever gets first pick is going to like to take Michigan and Ohio State and to a lesser extent Penn State.  So if Fox always got first pick, then an unusually high percentage of their games would end up at noon/11 AM.

But it definitely seems like you BiG folks don't hate that noon/11 AM timeslot as much as the rest of the country.  I suppose it's because it's noon local time for a lot of the games, but that one hour wouldn't make a whole lot of difference to me.  I really dislike any kickoffs before 2:30 to be honest.  And in Austin, all games before October, really should be night kickoffs.  But TV broadcaster don't give a shit about harming the fans in the stands...
For me it depends whether I am going or watching at home.

I live ~2 hours from Columbus so drive-time and a game are a minimum of about eight hours which takes up the entire day. Thus I prefer 3:30 kickoffs because I don't have to leave super early (like with a noon game) and I don't get home in the middle of the night (like with a night game).

When going to a 3:30 game I usually leave around 9am (which leaves a little time to do stuff at home first), have a tailgate lunch (or go to Skull Session), go to the game, stop for dinner on the way home, then get home before midnight.

When I am watching from home I strongly prefer night games because that leaves me all day Saturday for whatever I need to or want to do.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #848 on: August 19, 2022, 12:50:54 PM »
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #849 on: August 19, 2022, 12:52:16 PM »
Is there any practicable limit on conference size?

Could the "new NCAA" simply be a ginourmous conference?

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« Reply #850 on: August 19, 2022, 12:57:07 PM »
Is there any practicable limit on conference size?

Could the "new NCAA" simply be a ginourmous conference?

That seems to be where it's headed.

There are even some traditionalists that are now embracing the idea of huge "super-conferences" because in practice, what that will almost invariably look like, is smaller subsets of teams playing each other. And the most logical way to determine those smaller subsets, is geographically.

So the future state could very well end up looking a lot like the past state, just with all schools under one or two umbrellas, rather than 5 or 7.


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #851 on: August 19, 2022, 01:04:24 PM »
The extreme case in football would be one conference with ~60 teams?  I'm assuming no one is kicked out.


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« Reply #852 on: August 19, 2022, 01:11:20 PM »
The one thing that Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa fans all agree on is that 11 AM kickoffs are too damn early. Games in that slot should be reserved for the Eastern Time Zone.
Not all.
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« Reply #853 on: August 19, 2022, 01:13:21 PM »
The thing about this is that this new TV deal sets the price for Disney and the SEC.

Can Disney afford it? What else would they have money for?
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