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Gigem

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #798 on: August 09, 2022, 09:31:56 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 09, 2022, 07:55:50 AM
I recall thinking Mizzou was a weird addition to the SEC on geographic grounds.  But whatever, man, it's $$$$$$$$$.

We had too many Marys and not enough Williams.

You'd get fired saying that today?
I guess I don't get that.  It's bordered on three sides by SEC states.  Kentucky, Arkansas, and Tennessee.  Probably not the greatest fit, but probably the best available school when the SEC needed that 14th team.  
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« Reply #799 on: August 09, 2022, 09:33:18 AM »
Oh, sure, I just thought it a weird addition at that time.  I didn't know much about Mizzou.  They won the East twice in a row of course and showed they could compete, initially.  Mizzou to me is more of a northern kind of team, probably bordered Canada or something.
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« Reply #800 on: August 09, 2022, 09:42:06 AM »
nobody really wanted Mizzou

for obvious reasons

Iowa hates them, Kansas hates them, I'd be shocked if Arkansas doesn't hate them
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #801 on: August 09, 2022, 09:45:40 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 09, 2022, 09:42:06 AM
nobody really wanted Mizzou

for obvious reasons

Iowa hates them, Kansas hates them, I'd be shocked if Arkansas doesn't hate them
I never really think of them.  15 years in the same conference and they made pretty much zero impression on me.

When I'm listing the teams that have previously left the B12, I know it's four, but I can usually only ever remember Nebraska, Texas A&M, and Colorado.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #802 on: August 09, 2022, 01:24:40 PM »
I don't hate them like I do Eastern Michigan.
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« Reply #803 on: August 09, 2022, 01:36:02 PM »

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« Reply #804 on: August 09, 2022, 07:19:31 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 09, 2022, 09:45:40 AM
I never really think of them.  15 years in the same conference and they made pretty much zero impression on me.

When I'm listing the teams that have previously left the B12, I know it's four, but I can usually only ever remember Nebraska, Texas A&M, and Colorado.
Oddly I feel the same way about them. I guess they were as odd in the Big 12 as they are in the SEC. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #805 on: August 09, 2022, 08:58:00 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 09, 2022, 09:31:56 AM
I guess I don't get that.  It's bordered on three sides by SEC states.  Kentucky, Arkansas, and Tennessee.  Probably not the greatest fit, but probably the best available school when the SEC needed that 14th team. 
You're not good at geography.
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« Reply #806 on: August 09, 2022, 08:58:54 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 09, 2022, 09:33:18 AM
Oh, sure, I just thought it a weird addition at that time.  I didn't know much about Mizzou.  They won the East twice in a row of course and showed they could compete, initially.  Mizzou to me is more of a northern kind of team, probably bordered Canada or something.
This is roughly accurate.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #807 on: August 10, 2022, 10:27:20 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 06, 2022, 01:57:12 PM
Fans of Big Ten schools will boost UCLA attendance without anyone boarding a plane.  Part of the reason you want a market with 18 million people in it is that your fanbases are already there, by default.
Plenty of locals will suddenly get the chance to drive to see their team in the Rose Bowl now.  That's massive. 

It’s debatable how much will attendance really be boosted – and for how long before UCLA’s numbers return to continual decline?

Attendance pessimisms aside, what I more confidently foresee is how unprepared UCLA football will be for a more physical Big Ten schedule once they join in 2024. The program is in the midst of a down recruiting cycle going on two straight years. A sizable backlog of experience and talent exhaust their eligibility this year. Meaning, with a likely rebuild in store for 2023, Chip Kelly could be fired due to not keeping up with an under recruited roster.

The Bruins’ inaugural Big Ten season could coincide with a new coaching staff and thinnest roster in the conference. More details in the Pac 12 thread:

https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/2022-pac-12-thread/56/
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #808 on: August 10, 2022, 10:36:05 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 10, 2022, 10:27:20 AM
It’s debatable how much will attendance really be boosted – and for how long before UCLA’s numbers return to continual decline?

Attendance pessimisms aside, what I more confidently foresee is how unprepared UCLA football will be for a more physical Big Ten schedule once they join in 2024. The program is in the midst of a down recruiting cycle going on two straight years. A sizable backlog of experience and talent exhaust their eligibility this year. Meaning, with a likely rebuild in store for 2023, Chip Kelly could be fired due to not keeping up with an under recruited roster.

The Bruins’ inaugural Big Ten season could coincide with a new coaching staff and thinnest roster in the conference. More details in the Pac 12 thread:

https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/2022-pac-12-thread/56/


Years ago I lived in LA and whenever the Cubs were in town I would go to Dodger Stadium to watch.  Usually there were more Cubs fans in the stands than Dodger fans.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #809 on: August 10, 2022, 11:03:38 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 10, 2022, 10:27:20 AM
It’s debatable how much will attendance really be boosted – and for how long before UCLA’s numbers return to continual decline?

Attendance pessimisms aside, what I more confidently foresee is how unprepared UCLA football will be for a more physical Big Ten schedule once they join in 2024. The program is in the midst of a down recruiting cycle going on two straight years. A sizable backlog of experience and talent exhaust their eligibility this year. Meaning, with a likely rebuild in store for 2023, Chip Kelly could be fired due to not keeping up with an under recruited roster.

The Bruins’ inaugural Big Ten season could coincide with a new coaching staff and thinnest roster in the conference. More details in the Pac 12 thread:

https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/2022-pac-12-thread/56/


So don't be shocked by a Rutgers 42, UCLA 10 score in the near future?
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #810 on: August 10, 2022, 04:36:41 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 09, 2022, 01:24:40 PM
I don't hate them like I do Eastern Michigan.
You're a bad man
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #811 on: August 10, 2022, 04:37:52 PM »
Quote from: Abba on August 10, 2022, 11:03:38 AM
So don't be shocked by a Rutgers 42, UCLA 10 score in the near future?
Hey if Schiano could keep the locals there that might not be a stretch
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