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Cincydawg

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #770 on: August 07, 2022, 06:34:30 AM »
Who would the SEC boot in order to get back to ten if the criteria were money instead of tradition?
I'd take the teams out that have under average attendance and income.  Simple.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #771 on: August 07, 2022, 09:42:42 AM »
well, we've all typed about it and some here strongly believe it's only a matter of time before the top 40, 50, 60 whatever football programs band together and leave out fellow conference members

thereby not actually kicking Rutgers or Indiana out of the Big Ten, but leaving the football programs on the outside w/o a schedule vs the top teams

still a Big Ten university and probably all other sports belonging to the Big Ten group
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« Reply #772 on: August 07, 2022, 10:14:27 AM »
Based on the below, and current alignment, I'd say OSU, UW, MSU, UM, PSU, Iowa, and USC are in the club of ten - the latter two being on the cusp. That leaves 3 spots. 

Who gets them? I see ND and Stanford in the far left column. If they join the B1G, there is one spot left. Does that spot go to an existing member, or does it go to a new school like FSU?

Seems to me that based on the below, Maryland, Indiana, Rutgers and Purdue have no shot. NU, UNL and MN are clustered in the 78-82 win spot.


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #773 on: August 07, 2022, 10:15:30 AM »
"We" often forget there is more to it than football, or so I've heard.  I don't (yet) see some major football conference or association as likely soonish.


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #774 on: August 07, 2022, 10:19:47 AM »
NU, UNL and MN are clustered in the 78-82 win spot

I think it's quite obvious in this group that UNL stands out with TV ratings and $$$ and commitment to the football program going forward
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« Reply #775 on: August 07, 2022, 10:25:31 AM »
Based on the below, and current alignment, I'd say OSU, UW, MSU, UM, PSU, Iowa, and USC are in the club of ten - the latter two being on the cusp. That leaves 3 spots.

Who gets them? I see ND and Stanford in the far left column. If they join the B1G, there is one spot left. Does that spot go to an existing member, or does it go to a new school like FSU?

Seems to me that based on the below, Maryland, Indiana, Rutgers and Purdue have no shot. NU, UNL and MN are clustered in the 78-82 win spot.


[img width=234.333 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/0cac02x.png[/img]
Looking at this chart,  it is clear to me that that Wisconsin does not get enough credit as the clear #2 in the Big Ten.  Although if this only went back 10 years to 2012,  it may not be quite as clear.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #776 on: August 07, 2022, 10:29:28 AM »
Based on the below, and current alignment, I'd say OSU, UW, MSU, UM, PSU, Iowa, and USC are in the club of ten - the latter two being on the cusp. That leaves 3 spots.

Who gets them? I see ND and Stanford in the far left column. If they join the B1G, there is one spot left. Does that spot go to an existing member, or does it go to a new school like FSU?

Seems to me that based on the below, Maryland, Indiana, Rutgers and Purdue have no shot. NU, UNL and MN are clustered in the 78-82 win spot.


[img width=234.328 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/0cac02x.png[/img]
It would be tempting to give the final 2 spots to Washington and Oregon and leave Iowa out.

Final 10
Ohio St, PSU, Mich, Mich ST, Wisc,
ND, Stan, Ore, Wash, USC

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #777 on: August 07, 2022, 10:29:54 AM »
Looking at this chart,  it is clear to me that that Wisconsin does not get enough credit as the clear #2 in the Big Ten.  Although if this only went back 10 years to 2012,  it may not be quite as clear.
Still #6 among the P5. G5 noted with a red dot.


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #778 on: August 07, 2022, 10:31:22 AM »
It would be tempting to give the final 2 spots to Washington and Oregon and leave Iowa out.
King Barry* is not leaving Iowa out.


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #779 on: August 07, 2022, 10:32:45 AM »
the king might also have a soft spot for the huskers
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« Reply #780 on: August 07, 2022, 10:38:31 AM »
Probably. He was instrumental in bringing them in back when.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #781 on: August 07, 2022, 10:48:02 AM »
Which six teams would be expelled if it were entirely up to the King? 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #782 on: August 07, 2022, 10:53:04 AM »
Tough to say. He'd go to bat for UW (duh) and Iowa, and probably MN and UNL. He probably would not get his way on at least one of those last two.

OSU, UM, PSU and MSU are in, I would think, unless you go to a "one school per state" model. Then MSU is in danger.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #783 on: August 07, 2022, 10:57:40 AM »


If he doesn't expel OSU, M, PSU and MSU, then Wisconsin have to play them all in the same season every year. Back to back weeks, even. :111:
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

 

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