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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #672 on: July 28, 2022, 09:07:43 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on July 28, 2022, 01:13:05 AM
I read the article and it said something about these programs, having a lesser value, would receive a smaller share of the pie than the other Big Ten teams because they dilute revenue rather than adding to the revenue. 
USC and UCLA gain 100% share immediately unlike Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland, who had to wait a few years to get to 100%.

Perhaps Stanford or Washington would simply be admitted such as Nebraska until they earned a 100% share
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #673 on: July 28, 2022, 09:10:50 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 28, 2022, 09:06:50 AM
Too late for that.

Notre Dame will always be a target, I'd say adding Stanford and ND as the next two would be ideal for the B1G.
I agree, but I don't have to like it.
the only way to leave UCLA out now is to hope the governor can do something unlikely
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #674 on: July 28, 2022, 09:13:11 AM »
I bet 70% B1G >> 100% Pac.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #675 on: July 28, 2022, 09:22:34 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 28, 2022, 09:13:11 AM
I bet 70% B1G >> 100% Pac.
Oh yeah, for sure.

The PAC deal (without UCLA and USC) on the table right now, during their exclusive negotiating window with existing contract partners, is around $24M/year for the "leftovers."  It could end up being more than that if they can get creative with some streaming options added in, but it's not going to be double or anything.

Meanwhile 70% of the next B1G deal is thought to be around $70M/yr.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #676 on: July 28, 2022, 09:26:00 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 28, 2022, 09:22:34 AM
Meanwhile 70% of the next B1G deal is thought to be around $70M/yr.
probably more with USC and undoubtedly more if Notre Dame joins
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #677 on: July 28, 2022, 09:28:17 AM »
And even more when FSU and Miami sign up.

The B1G needs to get into states that are growing. Florida checks that box, while most of the rest of the conference is in shrinking states.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #678 on: July 28, 2022, 09:29:53 AM »
states that are growing recruits
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #679 on: July 28, 2022, 09:29:56 AM »
I think money talks.

They're gone, and the other programs out west would love to follow, but many will be "relegated".

Stanford would be a good addition on several fronts, not so much football of course, but a worthy addition.  I think the B1G will end up at 20, the SEC standing at 16.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #680 on: July 28, 2022, 09:31:14 AM »
I'd guess if the Big goes to 20, the SEC will grow

Clemson to the SEC
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #681 on: July 28, 2022, 09:35:50 AM »
wont the majority of legal expense lie with UCLA not the Big
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #682 on: July 28, 2022, 09:35:57 AM »
Maybe in a few years, I think it won't be "soon".  Clemson adds football which is nice but not a whole lot else.

Clemson and FSU "feel" like SEC programs.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #683 on: July 28, 2022, 09:36:48 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 28, 2022, 09:26:00 AM
probably more with USC and undoubtedly more if Notre Dame joins
No the $100M/year estimate includes USC and UCLA.  So 70% is $70M.

Adding Notre Dame would take it up, though.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #684 on: July 28, 2022, 09:47:05 AM »
it's an estimate

I'm guessing it will be more in the end

but then it seems it's likely there will be more additions before it's signed
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #685 on: July 28, 2022, 09:54:06 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 28, 2022, 09:47:05 AM
it's an estimate

I'm guessing it will be more in the end

but then it seems it's likely there will be more additions before it's signed
Sure it's an estimate, but it's coming from the TV folks who are directing the show.  I don't think it'll be much more than $100M, which represents a massive jump over the current contract.  Maybe a couple percentage points here and there, but the TV guys have done extensive analysis on market value.

I'm also not sure there will be more additions before the next contract is inked.  If ND doesn't budge, then as the article above mentions, pretty much any future adds are a net negative to the conference.  At that point, what's the purpose?  Will enough B1G schools see a positive outcome with net negative revenue, and even further complication to travel/scheduling, to vote in favor of it?  I have many doubts.

I haven't seen any numbers on potential adds of FSU and/or Miami, though.  I'd be interested to see the market projections for that.
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