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Abba

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #602 on: July 19, 2022, 12:08:17 PM »
I don't know if I mind players sitting out.  It gives you a chance to see the guys who will be on the team next year.  I like that bowl practices are also setting up for the following year.  The strange one to me is Emory Jones, who was already in the transfer portal, playing in the bowl game for Florida.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #603 on: July 19, 2022, 12:29:23 PM »
Players sitting out for 7-5 or even 9-3 teams are a positive I think.  If you are in a playoff game, obviously not, a Big Bowl Game?  It matters a bit I suppose.

You lose and end up ranked 11th instead of 6th.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #604 on: July 19, 2022, 01:09:12 PM »
Quote from: Abba on July 19, 2022, 12:08:17 PM
I don't know if I mind players sitting out.  It gives you a chance to see the guys who will be on the team next year.  I like that bowl practices are also setting up for the following year.  The strange one to me is Emory Jones, who was already in the transfer portal, playing in the bowl game for Florida.
I like this aspect. I think (hope) the RoseBowl gave us a good preview of tOSU's 2022 offense. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #605 on: July 19, 2022, 01:22:25 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 19, 2022, 12:29:23 PM
Players sitting out for 7-5 or even 9-3 teams are a positive I think.  If you are in a playoff game, obviously not, a Big Bowl Game?  It matters a bit I suppose.

You lose and end up ranked 11th instead of 6th.
I think I'd rather play the new guys and lose, but set things up for next year than play the returning guys and win to get some artificial ranking.  Obviously, I'm not trying to kick out seniors that want to play, but it can be better for the team next year if they sit out.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #606 on: July 19, 2022, 01:30:14 PM »
Quote from: Abba on July 19, 2022, 12:08:17 PM
I don't know if I mind players sitting out.  It gives you a chance to see the guys who will be on the team next year.  I like that bowl practices are also setting up for the following year.  The strange one to me is Emory Jones, who was already in the transfer portal, playing in the bowl game for Florida.
Guy wants to play ball with his guys, one last ride. 

I’m all the way here for it. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #607 on: July 19, 2022, 01:30:39 PM »
you follow your team all year and when they go to a bowl all of a sudden they are a different team

its very frustrating 

as meaningless as a bowl game may be its even more meaningless because of this
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #608 on: July 19, 2022, 01:32:02 PM »
Quote from: Abba on July 19, 2022, 01:22:25 PM
I think I'd rather play the new guys and lose, but set things up for next year than play the returning guys and win to get some artificial ranking.  Obviously, I'm not trying to kick out seniors that want to play, but it can be better for the team next year if they sit out.
The psychology of this kind of thing has always fascinated me. I described it as Christmas present theory. The new guy could be anything, and when they play in bowls, we get to tear off the wrapping paper. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #609 on: July 19, 2022, 01:36:43 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 19, 2022, 01:32:02 PM
The psychology of this kind of thing has always fascinated me. I described it as Christmas present theory. The new guy could be anything, and when they play in bowls, we get to tear off the wrapping paper.
The anticipation for the vacation is better than the vacation itself.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #610 on: July 19, 2022, 01:38:40 PM »
Quote from: Abba on July 19, 2022, 01:36:43 PM
The anticipation for the vacation is better than the vacation itself.
Watching a freshman QB show flashes while struggling brings more joy than a senior playing decent to above average. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #611 on: July 19, 2022, 01:42:19 PM »
I was thinking about the Ohio State-Utah Rose Bowl (RIP).

If JSN puts up 150, Stroud had 370 instead of 570 and OSU loses 45-35, is it just a shrug? And by that I mean, how much does winning or almost winning matter to the feelings about it?
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« Reply #612 on: July 19, 2022, 01:45:06 PM »
That was a weird game.  I knew the defensive staff was going to be gutted, so I was just going to live with whatever the defense did.  So I was hoping the offense would look good and show some promise.  If they had lost 45-35, maybe things would be slightly less hyped now, but not a significant difference. 

As for feelings for the game itself: I wasn't expecting to win, but once they took the lead in the 4th quarter, I got very interested in the result of the game.  If they had lost, it would've been more of a meh, as the things that I would complain needed to be fixed were going to be.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #613 on: July 19, 2022, 01:55:50 PM »
The difference between 10-3 and 11-2 is roughly ending ranked 12th versus 6-7th.  The latter is a top ten finish of course if you count such things.

I don't blame top draft picks sitting out.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #614 on: July 19, 2022, 02:56:22 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 19, 2022, 01:55:50 PM
The difference between 10-3 and 11-2 is roughly ending ranked 12th versus 6-7th.  The latter is a top ten finish of course if you count such things.

I don't blame top draft picks sitting out.
I hate how much bowls swing that last ranking.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #615 on: July 19, 2022, 03:44:04 PM »
Every loss swings rankings obviously near the top, a lot.  Go from 6-0 and ranked 4th to 6-1 and ranked 11th often as not.  Then you climb back with more wins and others' losses.
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