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FearlessF

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #854 on: January 24, 2024, 09:47:04 AM »
better give the AD a raise
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #855 on: January 24, 2024, 09:49:02 AM »
"If you can prove that, I'll concede the point.  If you can't, then we'll all know yer full of shit."

You keep saying the same thing, but you've yet to show any proof.  And you keep bringing up bagmen WRT different programs, but in reality NIL is just a business deal between two people and it's really none of yours or my business nor the NCAA. 

I've read articles that stated that when that class was signed we had between $1-3 MM in NIL deals, far from the purported $30 MM that was tossed around the internet by some dude with the handle of sliced bread. 

For clarity, I'm specifically stating your repeated references to A&M having bagmen paying players.  Why would they even need to do that when NIL made it all legal? 

The hypocrisy and hubris is excessive from you.  UT players are given Lamborghinis, but A&M bought its guys with bagmen. 



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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #856 on: January 24, 2024, 09:56:26 AM »
Believe what you like. 
Just like I thought.  Hurl accusations with no proof, just take my word for it.  

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #857 on: January 24, 2024, 09:59:00 AM »
Just like I thought.  Hurl accusations with no proof, just take my word for it. 

Your coach himself said that class included no NIL deals.  He got into a big twitter fight with Saban over it.  Believe what you like.

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #858 on: January 24, 2024, 10:15:38 AM »
Thanx, I Believe I'll finish my stash of Oktoberfest this afternoon
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #859 on: January 24, 2024, 10:28:17 AM »
My Fests are long gone.  I'm even running out of winter seasonals from my favorite breweries.

Guess it must be almost spring, then.

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #860 on: January 24, 2024, 10:40:05 AM »
Your coach himself said that class included no NIL deals.  He got into a big twitter fight with Saban over it.  Believe what you like.
I'm not certain that is exactly what he said.  As I recall, the context of the statement was that it was thrown around that we spent $30 MM on recruits, which is completely ridiculous on any level, especially coming from some poster named Sliced Bread to be taken seriously. 

Saban is the one who started that fight by saying that A&M bought our recruits yada yada.  Don't think that Jimbo doesn't know how Saban operates, he was a OC under him before FSU, they were supposedly pretty tight at one time.  

What it boils down to is that St. Nick didn't get his way, NIL changed the game for how recruits are won, and he whines about it and now 3 years in he hangs it up after publicly stating for years how much he didn't like it.  

I don't care what Jimbo said either about how much we had in NIL, you'd have to be pretty naive to think that A&M had no NIL when everybody else did.  That's just ridiculous.  I clearly remember players having endorsements from about that time, because it was just kinda weird to see them pimping stuff in the open like that.  Either Jimbo wasn't in touch with much of that, or as it is well known players can't even start their NIL until after they are on the team, so he could plausibly say that we had no NIL when he really meant that "it hasn't started yet".  I assume some of the records are public by now, I thought NIL had to at least be reported by school if not by sport and I think it'd be safe to assume 90+% of NIL would go to football.  

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #861 on: January 24, 2024, 10:44:37 AM »
Thanx, I Believe I'll finish my stash of Oktoberfest this afternoon
finished mine Monday evening
but, still hoping to find more
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #862 on: January 24, 2024, 10:47:39 AM »
https://www.si.com/college/tamu/news/texas-a-m-isaiah-spiller-demani-richardson-cashing-in-on-new-nil-rule-sec-football-news

We clearly had players getting NIL in 2021, which is the year that we had the #1 class.  So despite what Jimbo said, it's foolish to think that we had "no NIL" for that class.  
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #863 on: January 24, 2024, 10:54:35 AM »
I think it's hard to wrap your head around this fact.  If a booster wanted it bad enough, he could put out $100 million to NIL and outspend the rest of CFB handily and just basically buy (or at least attempt to buy) himself a championship, which is kinda what the Yankees did for a number of years.  They just outspent everybody and paid the tax and took home the hardware.  

We all know it doesn't always work out, talent =/= championships by itself.  So much more goes into it, which is where great coaches like Saban and Dabo have differentiated themselves.  I put Bob Stoops in this category as well.  Nobody will dispute that you have to have the talent, but you also need team chemistry, great coaching, a little luck usually, and at least 1-3 players that are just superstars in their own right like VY and Joe Burrow.  I don't think anybody would think that LSU or UT would have won it all without those two guys on their team.  Alabama has been able to do it mostly without an elite QB, but they were so deep everywhere else that it didn't matter.  

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #864 on: January 24, 2024, 12:06:56 PM »
My Fests are long gone.  I'm even running out of winter seasonals from my favorite breweries.

Guess it must be almost spring, then.
Up until a couple of weeks before Christmas the one grocer was still stocking it.Must be the price hike that has cooled some taste buds.Anyway time to break out the frothy grog's to combat the moody prick Old Man Winter.The Porters like Edmund Fitzgerald,Alberta Clipper & the Barrel Aged Black Out Stout From Great Lakes Brewing fit the bill nicely.They also have a unique offering that has piqued my interest - Bird Dawg Lichtenhainer Weisse. But it is a Pub Exclusive so I'll have to drive over there and fetch a couple of Growlers.

According to them -  it's uniquely entwined flavors will turn it around 180 degrees. A more recently revived ancient style similar to the tart Berliner Weisse and ultra-smoky wheat Grätzer style, it’s sure to tantalize your most experimental taste buds.

Have to ask a buddy who works Downtown if he can take a detour.


Edit: Cancel that last paragraph the Grätzer style is a low ABV. That isn't going to prevent fuel line freeze up at least not like the last week though it is up to 44 deg right now
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #865 on: January 24, 2024, 05:03:38 PM »
Wait the coaches don't view boosters as friends?


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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #866 on: January 24, 2024, 05:26:37 PM »
Up until a couple of weeks before Christmas the one grocer was still stocking it.Must be the price hike that has cooled some taste buds.Anyway time to break out the frothy grog's to combat the moody prick Old Man Winter.The Porters like Edmund Fitzgerald,Alberta Clipper & the Barrel Aged Black Out Stout From Great Lakes Brewing fit the bill nicely.They also have a unique offering that has piqued my interest - Bird Dawg Lichtenhainer Weisse. But it is a Pub Exclusive so I'll have to drive over there and fetch a couple of Growlers.

According to them -  it's uniquely entwined flavors will turn it around 180 degrees. A more recently revived ancient style similar to the tart Berliner Weisse and ultra-smoky wheat Grätzer style, it’s sure to tantalize your most experimental taste buds.

Have to ask a buddy who works Downtown if he can take a detour.


Edit: Cancel that last paragraph the Grätzer style is a low ABV. That isn't going to prevent fuel line freeze up at least not like the last week though it is up to 44 deg right now

I enjoy sours in small doses.  Even the Europeans who invented them don't drink much of them, typically not as session beers.

 

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