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Cincydawg

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Re: Top 25
« Reply #140 on: November 11, 2019, 02:15:42 PM »
Auburn and Ole Miss, eh?

Huh.

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Re: Top 25
« Reply #141 on: November 11, 2019, 02:17:39 PM »
Never mind, I looked it up. I guess I'm too old to see the obvious sometimes.
It's really not very clever, but.......... habit
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #142 on: November 11, 2019, 02:19:25 PM »
Alabama would need several 11-2 CG winners this season which is increasingly less likely.  Imagine UGA upsets LSU and they are both 12-1, Alabama is hosed for sure.

None of us can expect Clemson to lose.  Ohio State could end up 12-1 winning the CG, they also could do worse of course, I don't expect it.  The Pac seems fairly likely to have a 12-1 champ. 

Bama's OOC win of course is Duke, yay.  They would have wins over Auburn and A&M, OK I guess, and a decent loss.

Yeah...Clemson has a cakewalk to the playoffs.  They've truly have a nothing of a schedule.  I mean....that Texas A&M win *could* be somewhat impressive if they manage to beat Georgia or LSU?  But they lost to every good team they played (Clemson, Alabama, Auburn).  And several of their wins have not been impressive.  Four point win against dumptruck Arkansas?  Seven point win against tired Old Miss?  They were overvalued at the beginning of the year.

Definitely agree on the PAC-12.  Utah and Oregon are both unlikely to lose in the next three weeks.  They should have a one-loss conference champion.  The Big Ten will almost definitely have an undefeated or one loss champion as well.

Lessens Alabama's chances by a lot.  Especially since their schedule is awfully weak this year too.  A win against Auburn would be good....but just like Clemson....the Texas A&M win isn't really impressive....and that would be their second best win.  Guess that's what happens when you have a four game non-conference where you play nothing but creampuffs.

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Re: Top 25
« Reply #143 on: November 11, 2019, 02:22:21 PM »
Auburn and Ole Miss, eh?

Huh.

Well yeah....LSU guy, no surprises.  I hear Ohio State and Michigan don't like each other much either.  


I have begun hating Florida in the past few years, if that's something you find more relatable.  

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Re: Top 25
« Reply #144 on: November 11, 2019, 02:22:42 PM »
I'd like to see the committee really reward SOS

wins and good losses to top 10, top 25, and top 50 teams above anything else including if a team was in the playoff the season before

but, I've said this many many times

it would be good for the fans and the sport - scheduling better teams
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #145 on: November 11, 2019, 02:24:20 PM »
Imagine some scenario where the #4 selection is down to a 13-0 team that "played nobody" and a 12-1 team that had 3-4 impressive wins and one close loss to a great team.

Do you want the "best team" or the "best record"?


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« Reply #146 on: November 11, 2019, 02:25:56 PM »
I'm not even concerned if it's the best team, I want the team that schedules the best and then performs well
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #147 on: November 11, 2019, 02:30:28 PM »
new mexico state is 0-9  Western Carolina is 3-7

Wofford and Charlotte????


be reasonable - one of those on your schedule is plenty
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #148 on: November 11, 2019, 02:32:16 PM »
A for instance, take UGA in 2029, OOC games are:


Imagine they lose close to Texas and at Clemson (and both are good) and beat GT (who is half decent) while losing one conference game and winning the SEC to finish 10-3.    Should they be rewarded with a playoff slot if other conference champs are 12-1?

Probably not.


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Re: Top 25
« Reply #149 on: November 11, 2019, 02:33:32 PM »
It kinda feels "out there" like there's some Bama vs. Clemson fatigue that's set in.  Despite my earlier comments, it wouldn't surprise me if the Committee decided to exclude a non-conf. champ Alabama team.  But it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't, either.  

I'm just not sure that there's any way to predict what the CFPC will do.  They're accountable to no-one and can make up whatever criteria they want and weight it however they want.  Since they've been in charge in 2014, it sure seems like they start with whatever teams they want and then work their way backwards from there to justify them.  I mean, as opposed to setting down a criteria beforehand and then stacking up teams to see who meets it.  

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Re: Top 25
« Reply #150 on: November 11, 2019, 02:38:31 PM »
I'm just not sure that there's any way to predict what the CFPC will do.  They're accountable to no-one and can make up whatever criteria they want and weight it however they want.  Since they've been in charge in 2014, it sure seems like they start with whatever teams they want and then work their way backwards from there to justify them.  I mean, as opposed to setting down a criteria beforehand and then stacking up teams to see who meets it. 
That is the impression that I am usually left with. 

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« Reply #151 on: November 11, 2019, 02:39:49 PM »
This reminds me of 92 when nobody respected Bama and fans and the intellegensia wanted to revoke Corky Simpson's AP vote.    Not suggesting this is an exact parallel but that people change shoes.  Not saying Minnesota is 92 Bama, or 19 Bama is 92 Miami, just that we all have a hard time retiring our biases. 

Hard to believe but OU in 2000 had the same stink until the 4th quarter of that Orange Bowl vs Fsu.
It was yeah but all season long. 


I still think Minn D is vulnerable but they deserve every opportunity they get over anybody else if they keep winning. 

I'm not sure that's true.  OU's OOC slate was pretty weak that year, but by the end of the season including the B12 CCG they had 4 wins over teams that finished in the Top 12.  Nebraska, KSU twice, and then of course the Debacle in Dallas Part 1.  So they had wins over 10-2, 11-3,11-3, 9-3.  

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Re: Top 25
« Reply #152 on: November 11, 2019, 02:48:05 PM »
That is the impression that I am usually left with.
well, when the top 4 change's quite drastically the final week........ that's the impression
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #153 on: November 11, 2019, 02:54:09 PM »
well, when the top 4 change's quite drastically the final week........ that's the impression
I didn't say I was right, but that was the impression I've had in years past. Hopefully, this year will show us different. We'll see 

 

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