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Topic: 100 RBs who had lots of carries and didn't stink

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #126 on: March 13, 2020, 08:35:05 AM »
Nope, garbage.  Not nearly enough jukes.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #127 on: March 13, 2020, 11:23:16 AM »
I think elite speed is an elite talent, but speed alone obviously is insufficient.  The combination of speed and power is elite and rare.  I don't think Barry S. had elite speed, he had power and shiftiness.  I don't think any back has combined all three, Gurley might be an example of a RB who had a lot of all three.


Barry wasn't slow.  Obviously quickness was Barry's strength, not top end speed, but he wasn't slow

Adrian Peterson had a good amount of shiftiness, speed, and power.  Not the top at any one talent, but one of the best combinations of all.  As did Jim Brown.  Billy Sims and Marcus Dupree also come to mind.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2020, 02:11:09 PM »
Sanders ran, I believe, a 4.37.  So he had straight-line speed, too.  
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2020, 02:37:49 PM »
well then, greatest back EVER
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #130 on: March 13, 2020, 02:40:28 PM »
I'll let Levron know.
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« Reply #131 on: March 13, 2020, 02:41:27 PM »
I can break it to him.  Heck, he probably already knows
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« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2020, 02:48:00 PM »
Here lies Levron Williams
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He should've juked more.
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« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2020, 04:53:07 PM »
or he could have simply had a better NFL career ;)
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #134 on: March 13, 2020, 04:56:54 PM »
You're killing me.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2020, 05:55:13 PM »
Sanders ran, I believe, a 4.37.  So he had straight-line speed, too. 
Interestingly I think the 40 is more of an acceleration measurement than straight line speed. 

I was reading about Usain Bolt and most sprinters are accelerating and don't hit top speed until somewhere around 30-40 meters. Sprinters then start losing speed during the run, but Bolt manages to maintain his speed much better than most. 

So a 40 time has a lot more to do with acceleration than to speed. Which makes sense with Sanders.

(Note: I'm not saying Sanders didn't have straight line speed too; just that the 40 time isn't the best evidence to prove it.) 

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« Reply #136 on: March 13, 2020, 07:44:12 PM »
Bolt is the ultimate outlier, with his height.  He literally has fewer steps to the finish line than everyone else in the field.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2020, 10:03:30 AM »
there's 40 straight line and then there's top end speed

ESPN likes to show guys in highlights that break the 2o mph barrier

100 meter guys like E Dickerson
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2020, 10:15:11 AM »
There is also speed in pads and gear, which can be different, as a smaller guy will slow down more than a larger guy.

They should run the 40 in full pads.

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2020, 10:25:39 AM »
then you have to define full pads

do olinemen wear knee braces?
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