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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2025, 10:24:43 PM »
Who were the 100 worst P5 starters at each position?
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2025, 11:16:36 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 08, 2025, 10:24:43 PM
Who were the 100 worst P5 starters at each position?
We all probably have 100 for our own school....that guy who missed the block.  The other guy who missed that tackle...
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2025, 11:25:54 PM »
One cool thing from the BJ Historical Abstract for baseball was that a team made up of the 30th-best at each position would definitely win its division each year and be highly-favored to win the WS, but a team of the 70th-ranked guys would be the lower-limit on probably winning their division at all.
I think I have that right.  Something like that.
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You'd think, or at least I did, that the 70th-best at every position EVER on one team would still be VERY strong...but it's not.

I wonder if that would be similar for college football.  Way more teams, even if it's just P4/5....but at 70th-best, you'd basically be having the worst best player at a school's position.  If that makes sense.  Like Wake Forest's best-ever DT, Oregon State's best-ever TE, etc.

That's still a great team, right?
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2025, 12:31:45 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 08, 2025, 11:16:36 PM
We all probably have 100 for our own school....that guy who missed the block.  The other guy who missed that tackle...

Oh yeah.

JB Shugarts just got flagged with another false start penalty.

Lydell Ross was the worst starting running back.

Lots of starting QB candidates; Joe Bauserman, Steve Bellisari, Justin Zwick...
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2025, 01:12:14 AM »
Who was that CB that had like 15 PIs last year?
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2025, 01:26:12 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 08, 2025, 02:49:07 AM
100 might be a little much for some positions, or a little light for others, like O line, etc. Probably would need a top 500 for that position group.
I think 300 is fair.  
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I know for tackles, often times a guy is at RT early on and moves to LT once he improves.  
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2025, 06:56:48 AM »
Baseball is probably more dependent on pitching than football is on the QB, though a single pitcher of course can't play every game (as a starter anyway).
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2025, 11:33:52 AM »
I'm thinking the furthest-back players that may still be considered top 100 at their position would be guys like Hutson, Nagurski, Nevers,...Thorpe?  Grange?  O'Brien, Kinnick, Harmon?  Pitt's Marshall Goldberg.  


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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2025, 11:40:43 AM »
One issue "back in the day" is that the major newspapers obviously controlled coverage, and they were mostly in the northeast and midwest, so perhaps some of our history is biased in that fashion.  They covered ND players a LOT obviously, it got "clicks".
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2025, 12:00:21 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 10, 2025, 11:40:43 AM
One issue "back in the day" is that the major newspapers obviously controlled coverage, and they were mostly in the northeast and midwest, so perhaps some of our history is biased in that fashion.  They covered ND players a LOT obviously, it got "clicks".
Indeed.  Also, one big performance that got media coverage created legends out of ordinary players with 1 big game.
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2025, 12:38:57 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 08, 2025, 10:24:43 PM
Who were the 100 worst P5 starters at each position?
Michigan 2024 QBs win the starting job on that team
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2025, 05:29:11 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 10, 2025, 11:33:52 AM
I'm thinking the furthest-back players that may still be considered top 100 at their position would be guys like Hutson, Nagurski, Nevers,...Thorpe?  Grange?  O'Brien, Kinnick, Harmon?  Pitt's Marshall Goldberg. 



I'll take Nagurski & Thorpe
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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2025, 07:00:45 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 10, 2025, 12:38:57 PM
Michigan 2024 QBs win the starting job on that team


Over the vaunted 2008 platoon of Nick Sheridan and Steven Threet?

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Re: Top 100 Players at Each Position
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2025, 07:42:13 PM »
Top 10 Big Ten All-Time Leading Rushers:
1. Dayne WIS 6,397 yds @ 5.7 ypc for 63 TD
2. Taylor WIS 6,174 yds @ 6.7 ypc for 50 TD
3. Jackson NW 5,440 yds @ 4.8 ypc for 41 TD
4. Griffin OSU 5,177 yds @ 6.1 ypc for 25 TD
5. Ball WIS 5,140 yds @ 5.6 ypc for 77 TD
6. Hart UM 5,040 yds @ 5.0 ypc for 41 TD
7. Thompson IU 4,965 yds @ 4.6 ypc for 64 TD
8. Gordon WIS 4,915 yds @ 7.8 ypc for 45 TD
9. Davis WIS 4,676 yds @ 5.1 ypc for 42 TD
10. Ibrahim MIN 4,668 yds @ 5.4 ypc for 53 TD
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