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Topic: The No Stupid Questions Thread

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #280 on: December 05, 2025, 09:57:05 AM »
Maybe, but it happens often, I think.  First quarter, 0-0, nothing particular happening, defense lines up in standard formation like they do 80% of the time and the QB audibles.

I understand why they put a guy in motion, makes sense to me.

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #281 on: December 05, 2025, 10:19:07 AM »
Maybe the initial physical was expecting a more aggressive look and the audible is to the play that works better against base.
I never thought of that.  

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #282 on: December 05, 2025, 10:23:58 AM »
I often see the QB in the gun come up and call an apparent audible.  Fine, I get it, but to me, the defense usually looks to be in a very standard initial set.  Nobody is crowding the line unusually, the linemen are all set, maybe they are in Cover 2, just a very vanilla look with no movement.

On what basis is the QB changing the play?  (If he is.)  What is he seeing that I'm not?
many times they have a couple of plays called and he indicates which play to run based on what defense he sees

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #283 on: December 05, 2025, 10:24:51 AM »
it can simply be calling out pass protection scheme or a dummy fake audible to try to get the defense to shift 
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #284 on: December 05, 2025, 10:26:51 AM »
Maybe, but it happens often, I think.  First quarter, 0-0, nothing particular happening, defense lines up in standard formation like they do 80% of the time and the QB audibles.

I understand why they put a guy in motion, makes sense to me.
Well, think about it. You have plays that are designed to exploit certain concepts. 

Let's say the OC knows the tendencies of the opposing DC. You're in a certain down and distance where the DC likes to call cover 2 man. 

So you call a play designed to beat cover 2. Let's say your X alone on the left is running a double move fly. Your Y on the right is running an in route with the slot inside him running a corner/out. And the tight end on the right side of the line is going to chip and then release down the seam. You're trying to overload the safeties by forcing two safeties to help on 3 receivers, with two outside and one up the seam. Pretty basic concept.

Your QB is coming up and he sees that 2 high defense that he wants... But he also sees the corners way laid off. And he thinks, "Oh shit, they're playing quarters (4 deep) on the back end with zone underneath! This cover 2 man beater is going to get smothered!" So he audibles.

The OC is going to know what defense he wants to see for play #1, and have a backup play that works better if the QB sees something else. 

From our perspective, both defenses probably look like "base" in real time. But the QB not only knows the playcall and what it's designed to exploit, he sees the nuance in ways we're not trained to... Based on alignment, personnel, etc he can see if it looks like quarters zone vs cover 2 man, and switch into a better play. 

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #285 on: December 05, 2025, 10:29:22 AM »
Thanks, I figured something along those lines, it just struck me as odd.  So, a step or two by safeties matters.

I also see defenses responding to audibles more now.  

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #286 on: December 05, 2025, 10:38:27 AM »
Thanks, I figured something along those lines, it just struck me as odd.  So, a step or two by safeties matters.

I also see defenses responding to audibles more now. 
Michigan has been responding for a few seasons
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #287 on: December 09, 2025, 08:52:18 PM »
How come race horses never have to piss like us?
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #288 on: December 09, 2025, 10:23:23 PM »
oh they do and the stream  might embarrass you
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #289 on: Today at 01:05:09 AM »
I often see the QB in the gun come up and call an apparent audible.  Fine, I get it, but to me, the defense usually looks to be in a very standard initial set.  Nobody is crowding the line unusually, the linemen are all set, maybe they are in Cover 2, just a very vanilla look with no movement.

On what basis is the QB changing the play?  (If he is.)  What is he seeing that I'm not?
He's identifying the mike (middle) LB, for the blocking scheme.  He may also be IDing possible blitzers for the OL/TE/RB to keep their eye on.

If he's calling an actual audible, there's a reason, even if things seem vanilla.  Vanilla isn't vanilla if they've been non-vanilla the last 5 plays, lol.
Or it could be a dummy audible.
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #290 on: Today at 01:08:21 AM »
Well, think about it. You have plays that are designed to exploit certain concepts.

Let's say the OC knows the tendencies of the opposing DC. You're in a certain down and distance where the DC likes to call cover 2 man.

So you call a play designed to beat cover 2. Let's say your X alone on the left is running a double move fly. Your Y on the right is running an in route with the slot inside him running a corner/out. And the tight end on the right side of the line is going to chip and then release down the seam. You're trying to overload the safeties by forcing two safeties to help on 3 receivers, with two outside and one up the seam. Pretty basic concept.


Your Z is on your right.  Your TE is the Y.  Your slot may be your F or your Y, in which your TE would be your F or H.
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