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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #98 on: May 12, 2021, 01:47:53 PM »
Yeah, Stanford was the Indians into the 70s.  
In trying to make every team era-specific for Whoa Nellie, I use the old logos and some of the Native ones were honestly offensive.  Syracuse had one that was decidely impolite, so no, the "Orangemen" weren't an innocent moniker.  
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We could have a whole thread on old mascots/logos.  The ND leprechaun seemed to quit smoking in 1984.  Good for him.  Alabama had a meek elephant logo back in the late 60s.  UM just had a bad wolverine in a sailor's cap back then, too.  Funny, odd, weird, offensive, harmless, and everything in-between.
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« Reply #99 on: May 12, 2021, 01:52:09 PM »
I like the SWC's traditional tie-in to the Cotton Bowl, but only if the Cotton Bowl were to go back to playing in the Cotton Bowl.

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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #100 on: May 12, 2021, 02:27:55 PM »
Before the Cotton was demoted and had the SEC tie-in, it was the SWC champ vs. anyone, right?  An at-large opponent?
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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #101 on: May 12, 2021, 02:30:03 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on May 12, 2021, 01:52:09 PM
I like the SWC's traditional tie-in to the Cotton Bowl, but only if the Cotton Bowl were to go back to playing in the Cotton Bowl.


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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #102 on: May 12, 2021, 05:19:04 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 12, 2021, 02:27:55 PM
Before the Cotton was demoted and had the SEC tie-in, it was the SWC champ vs. anyone, right?  An at-large opponent?
Yes.  Just the one tie-in, which is why Notre Dame ended up playing there fairly regularly once they ended their own bowl game self-ban.  PSU, as well, as they were independent until the early 90s.
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« Reply #103 on: May 12, 2021, 05:19:29 PM »
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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #104 on: May 13, 2021, 08:03:54 AM »
The major bowls were pretty neat IMHO, you felt your team had a good year to make one of the four, and then if they had a decent year, Gator Bowl was up next if you were 9-2ish.  I do like there being some chance now of playing a Pac opponent somewhere.  UGA has never played in the Fiesta Bowl which became a "major" bowl at some point.  Then the Peach Bowl bought its way in as well, at least it uses fruit.  And chicken.

If a bowl is in a "major" city, it can buy its way in more readily it appears.
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« Reply #105 on: June 04, 2021, 11:11:43 AM »
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« Reply #106 on: June 04, 2021, 10:45:24 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 13, 2021, 08:03:54 AM
The major bowls were pretty neat IMHO, you felt your team had a good year to make one of the four, and then if they had a decent year, Gator Bowl was up next if you were 9-2ish.  I do like there being some chance now of playing a Pac opponent somewhere.  UGA has never played in the Fiesta Bowl which became a "major" bowl at some point.  Then the Peach Bowl bought its way in as well, at least it uses fruit.  And chicken.

If a bowl is in a "major" city, it can buy its way in more readily it appears.
It was definitely better when you felt like even if you didn't win your conference, a New Year's Day game was a pretty good reward, better than playing on December 28th, which is better than being done before Thanksgiving
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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2021, 02:00:55 PM »
I always had a feeling it was a good team if they made a major bowl.  Winning the NC was not really realistic, so that was a good year, and plausible.

There were the four major bowls and everything else, the Gator for a while was a decent runner up bowl.
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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2021, 02:39:40 PM »
Fiesta Bowl got big in the mid/late 80s when some upstart independents got good like Miami and FSU, along with longstanding notable independents ND and PSU, and the Fiesta Bowl had no conference tie-ins so could pair up two major independents for MNC type games.

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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2021, 02:56:23 PM »
That is the only bowl of consequence in which UGA has never played.  They probably have missed the Holiday Bowl and the Poulan Weedeater Bowl and the R&L Carriers Bowl.

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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #110 on: June 05, 2021, 03:09:54 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 05, 2021, 02:56:23 PM
That is the only bowl of consequence in which UGA has never played.  They probably have missed the Holiday Bowl and the Poulan Weedeater Bowl and the R&L Carriers Bowl.


Texas has played in-- and won-- all four traditional major bowls, plus the Fiesta.
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Re: The League of 15
« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2021, 03:15:29 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 05, 2021, 02:00:55 PM
I always had a feeling it was a good team if they made a major bowl.  Winning the NC was not really realistic, so that was a good year, and plausible.

There were the four major bowls and everything else, the Gator for a while was a decent runner up bowl.
The Big Ten hierarchy of the late 90s/early 2000s was perfect IMO.  You win the conference, you play in the Rose Bowl, unless you are GREAT, then you go play for a national title.  2nd/3rd still got to play on NYD in the Citrus and Outback Bowls.  Then you fell to the pre-NYD bowls, 4th/5th/6th to the Alamo/Sun/Music City Bowls.  7th place, you got to play in a postseason game...but it was in Detroit.

Everyone joked that the Motor City Bowl was created just for MSU, and maybe it was.  Yet in the entire time they had that tie-in, MSU has still never played in it.  They've always been too good, or not eligible for a bowl.  In that time (98-09?ish) I want to say the year we played Nebraska in the Alamo Bowl was the only time we finished between good enough to be bowl eligible, but not good enough to play in a NYD bowl.
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