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Topic: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)

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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #238 on: November 17, 2024, 10:15:52 AM »
That call came at a critical moment. The Badgers probably win the game if that call doesn't happen - despite the QB and OC being incompetent. 
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #239 on: November 17, 2024, 10:18:06 AM »
Oregon and OSU win out.

PSU and IU sit home and watch the game.

Oregon loses its top QB and OSU loses its top WR.

Who won?
The SEC
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #240 on: November 17, 2024, 10:21:37 AM »
I would take any of those QB's I listed over Locke and it's not close.

Give me McEvoy even. Give me Mike Samuel. At least they could run. This kid can't do anything.

Backup? Longo named him QB 1B. What does that tell you? Tells me to fire Longo.

Joel Stave wins that game last night. Let's not be blind to how very bad/terrible Locke is.
No. You would take the best of any of those QBs. And that is a difference. 

How about I give you Bart Houston losing his job by bombing against 3-9 Georgia State? Would you like Joel Stave coughing up four turnovers in a 10-6 loss to Iowa or completing 8 of 19 passes for 114 yards with three picks in a 20-14 loss to Northwestern? 

Congrats! You're now the owner of Alex Hornibrook going 7-for-20 for 100 yards with two picks against Michigan! I bet that fella woulda fearlessly whipped Oregon last night. No doubt! 

Maybe you'd like a Jack Coan going 9 for 20 for 60 yards with two picks against Penn State. Or the time he was 10-17 for 108 yards and got blasted by OSU. Graham Mertz? You can enjoy yourself a tall glass of 18-41 with four interceptions. Or perhaps I can pour you an 11-20 for 94 yards and and a pick in a blowout loss to the Buckeyes. 

What the 1B thing says is that coaches say nice things about players because it doesn't profit them to say bad things. And many, MANY versions of Stave does not win that game. Pretending otherwise is silly. Here's some tape
Here's some tape. We can watch Stave in Year 4 be so bad that third and 5 becomes a running down. 

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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #241 on: November 17, 2024, 10:22:34 AM »
That call came at a critical moment. The Badgers probably win the game if that call doesn't happen - despite the QB and OC being incompetent.
I have to admit, I thought the pass over the line seemed a hair suspect. Like it was close? Unless they explained something on the broadcast about why it was a really correct call. 

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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #242 on: November 17, 2024, 10:24:10 AM »
the chop block call didn't need to be and usually isn't called

but, by the letter of the rule, I don't think it was a horrible call

it's these types of judgement calls that the #1 team in the conference get to their advantage to protect them
He was already engaged with a lineman and the ref saw the RB go low, simple as that.  Whether it was a good call or not, probably not, but all the indicators were there to throw the flag.  It's a legit penalty maybe 88/100 times.  
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #243 on: November 17, 2024, 10:24:57 AM »
I wish Wisconsin had a QB.
hah, I wished that for Nebraska last season

my wish was granted, Raiola came out and played well the first 5 games of the season.  GREAT!!!

Since then he and the offense have regressed to the point that the O-coordinator was demoted.
The new coordinator????

13 points!!!
Dylan Raiola 27 of 38 191 1td 2int
rushing - 119
passing 191
3rd down - 5-13

hopefully, the new coordinator improves going forward, 2 weeks isn't much time
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #244 on: November 17, 2024, 10:25:54 AM »
If Mertz can be as good as he was at Florida, maybe those pedestrian QBs weren't the ones at fault?

All this being said, that had to be a gut-wrenching game to watch for you bastages.  Sorry Wisconsin didn't pull it out.
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #245 on: November 17, 2024, 10:26:10 AM »
That call came at a critical moment. The Badgers probably win the game if that call doesn't happen - despite the QB and OC being incompetent.
just refs looking for that opportunity
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #246 on: November 17, 2024, 10:26:43 AM »
No. You would take the best of any of those QBs. And that is a difference.

How about I give you Bart Houston losing his job by bombing against 3-9 Georgia State? Would you like Joel Stave coughing up four turnovers in a 10-6 loss to Iowa or completing 8 of 19 passes for 114 yards with three picks in a 20-14 loss to Northwestern?

Congrats! You're now the owner of Alex Hornibrook going 7-for-20 for 100 yards with two picks against Michigan! I bet that fella woulda fearlessly whipped Oregon last night. No doubt!

Maybe you'd like a Jack Coan going 9 for 20 for 60 yards with two picks against Penn State. Or the time he was 10-17 for 108 yards and got blasted by OSU. Graham Mertz? You can enjoy yourself a tall glass of 18-41 with four interceptions. Or perhaps I can pour you an 11-20 for 94 yards and and a pick in a blowout loss to the Buckeyes.

What the 1B thing says is that coaches say nice things about players because it doesn't profit them to say bad things. And many, MANY versions of Stave does not win that game. Pretending otherwise is silly. Here's some tape
Here's some tape. We can watch Stave in Year 4 be so bad that third and 5 becomes a running down.
Every QB has a clunker in them. Just not every f'ing week.
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #247 on: November 17, 2024, 10:28:17 AM »
If Mertz can be as good as he was at Florida, maybe those pedestrian QBs weren't the ones at fault?

All this being said, that had to be a gut-wrenching game to watch for you bastages.  Sorry Wisconsin didn't pull it out.
Fickell actually tried to keep Mertz. 
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #248 on: November 17, 2024, 10:29:32 AM »
He was already engaged with a lineman and the ref saw the RB go low, simple as that.  Whether it was a good call or not, probably not, but all the indicators were there to throw the flag.  It's a legit penalty maybe 88/100 times. 
I agree, but it's not usually called 88/100 - more like 44/100

it's called 100/100 in that particular situation
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #249 on: November 17, 2024, 10:34:25 AM »
If Mertz can be as good as he was at Florida, maybe those pedestrian QBs weren't the ones at fault?

All this being said, that had to be a gut-wrenching game to watch for you bastages.  Sorry Wisconsin didn't pull it out.
did Mertz get injured - he didn't play yesterday?
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #250 on: November 17, 2024, 10:35:05 AM »
I agree, but it's not usually called 88/100 - more like 44/100

it's called 100/100 in that particular situation
When a guy is already engaged and the RB ducks his head and bends forward like that, it's called (or should be) a high % of the time.  Most of the time, the RB chips with a shoulder up higher and makes himself a receiving target just beyond the LOS.
But taking on a blocker + another guy going low = a flag much of the time - they specifically look for that
But neither of us has data, so our estimates vary.
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #251 on: November 17, 2024, 10:35:21 AM »
Yeah that chop block call was a really bad break.  At a critical time.  From the angle that ref had- I am sure he truly thought it was a chop. 

It happens so often in tight games.  Refs are human.  They make mistakes but I don’t think it is intentional.   

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