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Topic: The 80% Club

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2018, 07:20:09 AM »
I wonder what Mt Union's best decade win % is? 

They play about 16 games per year. Half the time they run the table, and half the time their only loss is in the NC game. 

Once in a blue moon there might be a two loss season. Like in 2016, when John Carrol ended their Conference Title streak that dated back to 1992, and then they were eliminated in the Final Four, marking the only time this millennium that they didn't get to play in the NC game (and only the second time since 1992). 

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2018, 07:26:45 AM »
I wonder what Mt Union's best decade win % is?

They play about 16 games per year. Half the time they run the table, and half the time their only loss is in the NC game.

Once in a blue moon there might be a two loss season. Like in 2016, when John Carrol ended their Conference Title streak that dated back to 1992, and then they were eliminated in the Final Four, marking the only time this millennium that they didn't get to play in the NC game (and only the second time since 1992).
You know they couldn’t beat Alabama, right?

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2018, 07:29:54 AM »
You know they couldn’t beat Alabama, right?
And Alabama couldn't beat the Dallas Cowboys, so what?

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #73 on: July 24, 2018, 08:04:45 AM »
And Alabama couldn't beat the Dallas Cowboys, so what?
Of course they wouldn't.
That's why we don't ever see Bama and Dallas on the same list.
Just as we shouldn't ever see Bama and Boise on the same list.
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #74 on: July 24, 2018, 08:24:53 AM »
You know they couldn’t beat Alabama, right?
Psht. We're tawkin' Football here. Not gymnastics. 
They'd run circles around those two-legged pachyderms. 

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #75 on: July 24, 2018, 09:20:14 AM »
Of course they wouldn't.
That's why we don't ever see Bama and Dallas on the same list.
Just as we shouldn't ever see Bama and Boise on the same list.
Never try to pass an apple for an orange. Ever.
No one is trying to pass an apple for an orange.  Boise St met the criteria for what this thread was originally about.  No one on here is going to be tricked into thinking Boise St is the best team in the nation by being on that list.  However, when taking into consideration the advantages AND disadvantages Boise has compared to the P5 teams the accomplishment is just as notable.  All of the G5 teams play weaker schedules.  Only one is on that list this century. Boise.

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2018, 09:26:49 AM »
badge, you're not poor enough to buy lottery tickets...
The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.  

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2018, 09:28:59 AM »
What's the line on Mt. Union vs Alabama @ a neutral field?  -50?  -70?
It doesn't have to be Bama.  The worst P5 team would easily take down Mt. Union.  I know there are some REALLY bad P5 teams but you have to understand that Mt. Union probably only has maybe a half dozen guys who would even be able to walk-on at a low end P5 program.  
I love watching them play.  They are REALLY good, in their space, but they couldn't even come close to matching the size and speed of a Rutgers let alone a high end P5.  

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2018, 09:41:03 AM »
yeah, i was just running the numbers, not most likely scenarios. just went from best possible on down, stopping at reg season games only.

but those look correct as realistic scenarios.
This was my list of scenarios that could happen:
18-W18-L18-Games18-%09-17-W09-17-L09-17-Gm09-17-%
150151128121400.9143
141150.933333127131400.9071
132150.866667126141400.9000
123150.8125151400.8929
131140.928571126131390.9065
122140.857143125141390.8993
113140.785714124151390.8921
104140.714286123161390.8849
95140.642857122171390.8777
121130.923077125131380.9058
112130.846154124141380.8986
103130.769231123151380.8913
94130.692308122161380.8841
85130.615385121171380.8768
76130.538462120181380.8696
67130.461538119191380.8623
57120.416667118191370.8613
48120.333333117201370.8540
39120.25116211370.8467
210120.166667115221370.8394
111120.083333114231370.8321
012120113241370.8248
I left out:
  • 11-4 or worse on 15 games:  My theory here is that in order to play 15 games Bama would have to play in the SECCG, get to the CFP, and win the CFP semi-final.  Even assuming that they lost the CFP Championship that would require at least three losses prior to the CFP and I just can't see a scenario in which a three-loss team gets into the CFP.  
  • 8-6 or worse on 14 games:  My theory here is that in order to play 14 games Bama would have to either play in the SECCG or win a CFP semi-final.  Neither of those things seem plausible for a team with at least four losses.  
  • 5-7 or worse on 13 games:  If Bama was worse than 6-6 on their first 12 then they wouldn't get a 13th.  

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2018, 10:29:38 AM »
The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.  
I'm a simple dirt farmer - math is optional
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2018, 10:31:17 AM »
Bama is a singular Elephant, so a plurality of Purple Raiders would easily outweigh it.


not necessarily. an elephant weighs about 13000 lbs, so would take 52 raiders averaging 250 lbs (which is generous, imo) to match the elephant.
second, who said bama is a single elephant? just because they have a single elephant mascot? mt union mascot is a single macaw anyway, not raiders.
and like mt union aren't the macaws, bama isn't the elephant(s), we're the tide. i'm fairly sure that'll outweigh any amount of raiders, macaws and/or elephants. or any other mascots that i can think of for that matter.

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2018, 10:32:12 AM »
What NDSU is doing in Fargo has been very impressive as well....    And no, they couldn't beat bama...  but for their division, what they've done over 2 different coaches has been impressive. 

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #82 on: July 24, 2018, 10:33:07 AM »
No one is trying to pass an apple for an orange.  Boise St met the criteria for what this thread was originally about.  No one on here is going to be tricked into thinking Boise St is the best team in the nation by being on that list.  However, when taking into consideration the advantages AND disadvantages Boise has compared to the P5 teams the accomplishment is just as notable.  All of the G5 teams play weaker schedules.  Only one is on that list this century. Boise.
since we have a P5 class and a G5 class, some folks were simply pointing out the difference in classes
you are obviously smart enough to know the difference, but some folks just wanted to point out the obvious
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2018, 10:35:27 AM »
What NDSU is doing in Fargo has been very impressive as well....    And no, they couldn't beat bama...  but for their division, what they've done over 2 different coaches has been impressive.  
I wouldn't go so far as to say they "couldn't" beat Bama.
They have vistories over some decent P5 teams - no team in the top 10 or top 5, but on any given Saturday in September.........
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