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It's all about terms. If we want to have a productive conversation, we have to have some level of agreement on what those terms mean. It's like whether a hot dog or a taco is a "sandwich". Ultimately the technical definition of sandwich or non-sandwich could include them (or not), but you'd look at someone funny if they offered you a sandwich and then served you a taco.

I understood bayareabadger's use of the term Federalist to mean one thing. You understood it to mean a different thing. Seems CD chimed in more on the side that BAB and I are on.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what we call it. It's a label. I posted to perhaps make sure that we either agreed on what that label means, or at the very least that if we don't agree, we at least know what each other means with the use of a label to facilitate communication.

And that's fair.

My Dad told me a story about going with his uncle in a wagon to sell produce in Gainesville (they lived near Blairsville in the mountains).  The road over the mountains was the Logan Turnpike, privately owned.  Once they got over of course the roads would have likely been state or county owned and operated.  It took several days then, circa 1925.  He said his uncle had a revolver as there were highwaymen about at times.  

The Logan Turnpike ran near a highway today built as a scenic highway (and it is), state operated of course.

The main road to Blairsville built by the state opened in 1925, the "Neel Gap Road".  It is still in use as US 19/129.  It has of course been improved some, it's a nice drive if you're not in a hurry.  This was written by my great aunt.

Finally a Paved Road Across Neel Gap (rootsweb.com)

From a five-day trip to Gainesville by wagon over the Logan Turnpike to the one-day trip by automobile or truck, farmers took their eggs, chickens and mountain cured hams to markets below the hills.  Better economy and ease of travel were assets of this first paved road over the mountain. 

It's funny in a way, I can drive to Blairsville and back easily in a day.  Nice scenery.

I was pondering whether I'd move out of this state if Democrats solidly took over government.  I might if the financial situation became untenable, either personally, or more likely, state finances.  And of course this general area might start to run down back to where it was circa 1975.

And of course this general area might start to run down back to where it was circa 1975.
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they could defund the police and it might not be safe to walk the streets
your favorite eateries and shops would close because of theft

I could not live in a place where policies so greatly differed from my own stances.

Eh. Try being a libertarian. Pretty much everywhere in this country greatly differs from my stances, in differing ways.

At least the weather is nice here. 

Our local news stays out of politics, other than reporting actual news. No opinions or garbage.

It's a solid newscast. The weather team is great. And their talent... Nice.