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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #392 on: July 29, 2021, 08:40:22 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 28, 2021, 09:11:46 PM
Now the question of which IN school it would be is interesting.  Purdue was a charter member but Indiana joined in 1899 so it is not like they are some Johnny-come-lately.  Also, Purdue has a larger enrollment but the difference is not significant and the two schools' endowments are also similar in size. 

The obvious advantage of not having two schools each in IL, IN, and MI is that you could replace them with three schools from other states and thus increase the footprint of the league (ie, increase the size of the pie without cutting it into more slices). 
Purdue over IU for sure.

Purdue has engineering. IU does not. IU is out.
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #393 on: July 29, 2021, 09:52:10 AM »
Why Texas and Oklahoma want to move to the SEC? Follow the money (cnbc.com)

Duh.  Some figures, estimates anyway.

Texas and OU each reportedly received about $34 million from the Big 12 over the last year. That figure could jump to over $60 million annually if they move to the SEC.
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« Reply #394 on: July 29, 2021, 11:05:33 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 29, 2021, 09:52:10 AM
Why Texas and Oklahoma want to move to the SEC? Follow the money (cnbc.com)

Duh.  Some figures, estimates anyway.

Texas and OU each reportedly received about $34 million from the Big 12 over the last year. That figure could jump to over $60 million annually if they move to the SEC.
Good article.  It doesn't state what the projected rights for the rump12 will be but that will obviously be a LOT lower.  If you are one of them, adjusting from receiving $34M/year to something probably less than half of that is going to be a struggle.  

My favorite quote:
"When Alabama coach Nick Saban hinted that quarterback Bryce Young reached the $1 million mark via NIL opportunities, that comment served almost like a recruitment pitch."
Almost?  

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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #395 on: July 29, 2021, 11:12:14 AM »
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« Reply #396 on: July 29, 2021, 11:48:04 AM »
My CFB fan status is teetering. 
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #397 on: July 29, 2021, 12:03:57 PM »
I wonder what the CFB universe will be like in a decade.  Thinking back to 2011, it has changed rather a lot.
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« Reply #398 on: July 29, 2021, 12:27:32 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 29, 2021, 12:03:57 PM
I wonder what the CFB universe will be like in a decade.  Thinking back to 2011, it has changed rather a lot.
Hopefully we'll have flying cars by then!
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« Reply #399 on: July 29, 2021, 12:59:41 PM »
Ten years ago we were up to our eyeballs in Conference realignment. So it wouldn't be THAT weird. 
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #400 on: July 29, 2021, 01:04:25 PM »
I could see a two conference outcome where the B1G and SEC carve up the remaining conferences.

The B1G would get "the West" and SEC would get the ACC perhaps less BC/Wake/Duke?

I guess that would mean 6-8 "divisions".
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« Reply #401 on: July 29, 2021, 01:48:28 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 29, 2021, 08:40:22 AM
Purdue over IU for sure.

Purdue has engineering. IU does not. IU is out.
Well, we all know football drives these decisions. Purdue has been bad, historically, at football. IU has been atrociously bad, historically, at football. 

Academically, IU ranks 76th in USN&WR, whereas Purdue ranks 53rd. So even beyond having engineering, Purdue is the more prestigious academic school.

All IU has going for it is some dusty old banners in their basketball gym from decades before their current students were born.
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #402 on: July 29, 2021, 01:50:03 PM »
If it ever gets to that point both Purdue and IU are out, and ND is in.
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #403 on: July 29, 2021, 01:52:43 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 29, 2021, 01:48:28 PM
Well, we all know football drives these decisions. Purdue has been bad, historically, at football. IU has been atrociously bad, historically, at football.

Academically, IU ranks 76th in USN&WR, whereas Purdue ranks 53rd. So even beyond having engineering, Purdue is the more prestigious academic school.

All IU has going for it is some dusty old banners in their basketball gym from decades before their current students were born.

Purdue's mascot is a drink consisting of beer and a shot of whiskey.

Indiana's mascot is a.... hoosier... whatever that is.

So once again, advantage Purdue.
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #404 on: July 29, 2021, 01:56:08 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 29, 2021, 01:04:25 PM
I could see a two conference outcome where the B1G and SEC carve up the remaining conferences.

The B1G would get "the West" and SEC would get the ACC perhaps less BC/Wake/Duke?

I guess that would mean 6-8 "divisions".

This is where I think it goes.  You could draw up a pretty "logical" 24 school B10 that maintains AAU status almost across the board and gets back to more regional flavor, something like:

Great Lakes
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Purdue
Indiana

Great Plains
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern

Atlantic
Penn State
Notre Dame
North Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
Rutgers

Pacific
USC
Oregon
Washington
Stanford
UCLA
Zona/Utah/Colorado/Cal - whichever is most valuable, all AAU.

That gets you to 23, all AAU except Notre Dame, who they'd make the exception for anyway. I have no clue who you put in that Great Lakes division that is AAU and makes geographical sense - Notre Dame is obvious, but that throws off the competitive balance of that division and you need a second historical football power in the Atlantic. Other than missing a school in that division everything makes sense in terms of preserving rivalries and competitive balance.

I could see the academic brass at UNC/UVA preferring the B10 to the SEC, but they'd be round two of the expansion, go to 20 now with the P12+ND, then add 4 more later.

You'd just do an 11 game conference schedule, your entire division, plus everyone in the other division and rotate it every year. SEC could do the same and move to 20 or 24 and you end up with basically two power conferences and then maybe a third conference with the schools that were left behind but have a long history of college football and deserve a seat at the table, but will just be paid well below B10/SEC.
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #405 on: July 29, 2021, 02:05:51 PM »
Quote from: TamrielsKeeper on July 29, 2021, 01:56:08 PM
That gets you to 23, all AAU except Notre Dame, who they'd make the exception for anyway. I have no clue who you put in that Great Lakes division that is AAU and makes geographical sense
Pitt?

They're AAU, make great geographic sense, and that puts them in the same conference as PSU but different division. 

I wouldn't add Pitt to get to 16, but as a school to round out 24, they'd make a lot more sense.
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