Summer Olympics Thread-Tokyo

[utee94]

Coolio

[MaximumSam]

Btw, in the car driving back to Ohio. I watched judo this morning and didn't understand it even a little bit. Not sure the announcers did either. But it was entertaining.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Btw, in the car driving back to Ohio. I watched judo this morning and didn't understand it even a little bit. Not sure the announcers did either. But it was entertaining.

Judo is a cool sport. I did intramural judo my freshman year at Purdue, after having spent ages 11-18 doing martial arts (Hapkido). 

I always found the Austin Powers movie funny because he keeps saying "judo chop!" when in judo there are no striking movements allowed... It's entirely grappling.

But basically the way to understand judo is that it's like standard HS/college wrestling, but with choke holds and other submission moves (arm bars, etc) allowed. And of course having the judo gi gives you leverage to grab onto for throws and potentially to execute chokes--you can get someone to submit to a choke using their uniform to execute the choke. 

A "pin" is different in judo. A pin is 20 seconds, but it doesn't require both shoulder blades to be down the entire time like wrestling. One shoulder blade down suffices.

The other difference is the scoring. Getting a "full point" will win a match. If you execute a throw, you can either get a full point, half point, or lesser scores. The full point will immediately end a match in a single throw. The half points are additive, so if the match requires you to square up again and you've scored a half point throw already, and you get another half point throw, you've won the match. The other lesser scores aren't additive, but can be used if the match goes to decision. And then of course, if you get your opponent to submit, you've won the match. 

Basically the scoring of the throw is based on how aggressive and violent it is, how much you slam your opponent to the mat, etc.  Because of my previous experience (having been taught how to safely fall when thrown), I actually volunteered to be the dummy when our instructor demonstrated what sort of throws would generate the lesser points, half point, and full point. The full point was quite a throw lol...

[MarqHusker]

US looked a  bit rusty tonight vs ARG...

[MaximumSam]

Judo is a cool sport. I did intramural judo my freshman year at Purdue, after having spent ages 11-18 doing martial arts (Hapkido).

I always found the Austin Powers movie funny because he keeps saying "judo chop!" when in judo there are no striking movements allowed... It's entirely grappling.

But basically the way to understand judo is that it's like standard HS/college wrestling, but with choke holds and other submission moves (arm bars, etc) allowed. And of course having the judo gi gives you leverage to grab onto for throws and potentially to execute chokes--you can get someone to submit to a choke using their uniform to execute the choke.

A "pin" is different in judo. A pin is 20 seconds, but it doesn't require both shoulder blades to be down the entire time like wrestling. One shoulder blade down suffices.

The other difference is the scoring. Getting a "full point" will win a match. If you execute a throw, you can either get a full point, half point, or lesser scores. The full point will immediately end a match in a single throw. The half points are additive, so if the match requires you to square up again and you've scored a half point throw already, and you get another half point throw, you've won the match. The other lesser scores aren't additive, but can be used if the match goes to decision. And then of course, if you get your opponent to submit, you've won the match.

Basically the scoring of the throw is based on how aggressive and violent it is, how much you slam your opponent to the mat, etc.  Because of my previous experience (having been taught how to safely fall when thrown), I actually volunteered to be the dummy when our instructor demonstrated what sort of throws would generate the lesser points, half point, and full point. The full point was quite a throw lol...

That's pretty cool. I was vaguely aware you were supposed to try and throw the other person, but what constituted an actual throw or something else was way outside my expertise. I also had no idea what was happening when they penalized someone. Both medal matches were won because the ref (or whatever she is) penalized someone, but I had no idea for what.

[MaximumSam]

Also, the Olympics have always political. We boycotted them in 1980 over political stuff. Taiwan and China are always having their political issues aired every time. 

[MarqHusker]

WVB, Turkey smoked gold medal favorite China 3-0 in pool play.    US to play China tomorrow. 

[OrangeAfroMan]

My kids care about humans.  They care about the world.  They care about character. 

They love sports.  They want sports to be about sports. They want to enjoy it without having to hear all the BS. 
 
one is a Nurse Anesthesiologist and one is a Biomedical engineer. 

I have raised them well.  I hope they never stop being turned off by a media that turns sports into politics, and drama not related to sports. 

Stay humble.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Yes, we are all accustomed to being absolutely bombarded with left wing political propaganda every time we turn on the TV, PC or Radio. There's no getting away from it.

The degree of saturation is obviously an important factor. If a band I like has one or two songs on their new CD that appear to be authored by Huff Po, then I can just skip those tracks, or maybe even listen to them for the comedic cringe factor. Typically politics are used as a way to dress up the worst song on the album anyway, so it's not that big of a deal.

If instead they release a new album called "Orange Man Bad!" and the lyrics to every song read like a political discussion between a couple of generic White liberal SJW stereotypes like Fro, then that's obviously different. It goes without saying that I won't be buying that album, but I'm probably not going to go to their concert either, since they would just be wagging their finger at me and insulting me the entire time. 

[longhorn320]

BB youre getting more like me every day

that ought to scare the hell out of you

[847badgerfan]

Also, the Olympics have always political. We boycotted them in 1980 over political stuff. Taiwan and China are always having their political issues aired every time.

It was not that at all. The following countries also boycotted:

[MaximumSam]

It was not that at all. The following countries also boycotted:

??? That multiple countries boycotted the Olympics for political reasons (not to mention the numerous countries that boycotted the 1984 Olympics for political reasons) seems like even more evidence that politics have been part of the Olympics for a long time. Really, more then than now.

[MarqHusker]

Entertaining Women's road race with the 500-1 Austrian amateur holding off the Dutch led Peloton.   Appears the Silver medalist thought she had won, apparently nobody had a proper accounting of the number in the breakaway pack.   The breakaway pack had at one point a 10 minute lead and all but one were reeled in but the Austrian who ended up winning by a little less than 2 minutes.  No radios for the Olympic race is the excuse provided.    Good stuff.   Lots of finger pointing.   

[CWSooner]

Softball!

Incredible that Cat Osterman is still playing, 15 years after graduating from Texas.

OU's version of Cat, Keilani Ricketts, has been in a pissing contest with USA softball ever since graduating, and is listed as a "replacement player."  That's disappointing to me.