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Topic: Stirring the pot

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Stirring the pot
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2017, 03:05:54 PM »
In fairness, that 6-7 football team was better than their record indicated.  They just had their coach fired in the offseason and they had a looming investigation that they knew would potentially keep them from playing in the post-season.  Morale was crap and they had nothing to play for.

So Urban "inherited" a 6-7 team, but it was a team that was certainly capable of much more.
Be that as it may, it was the worst season since 1897; which was the worst season in school history. 
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Re: Stirring the pot
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2017, 03:08:40 PM »
Dantonio took over a spread formation John L. Smith team that had won I think 3 total Big Ten games over the previous 2 years, never sniffed a bowl.

Turned them into a Power I team, converted a couple LBs to FBs, was playing Penn State for a Big Ten title by Year 2.
Yes, another fine example. 
He had similar success in Cincinnati with Gino Guidugli and the boys; while moving up from CUSA to the Big East.
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Re: Stirring the pot
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2017, 03:14:53 PM »

Ohio State - Ohio State had more offensive yards than any other B1G team last week.  They ran 86 plays and average 6.9 yards per play.  That ranks them 4th in the B1G.  I saw the game live and I had myself convinced their offense was just pedestrian.  I expect a pretty big improvement from week one to week 2 as well.  They might actually be the best B1G team, and the rest of us are simply in denial.  This really rustles my jimmies.  

Let's see what they do when they face actual B1G-level competition...  :)

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Yeah, Michigan fans were notorious for using that excuse during the Rich Rod years. First he couldn't win with Carr's players. Then Hoke needed an entire 5-year recruiting cycle in order to get rid of the Rich Rod players.

Urbs inherited a 6-7 Tressel ball team, installed a spread-option in one spring session, and then won the next 24 games.
Calling that team "Tressel Ball" after Tressel had spent years (with Troy Smith and Terrelle Pryor) converting the offensive system to a spread is a bit disingenuous, doncha think?

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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2017, 03:21:51 PM »
He's done a 180 in my mind in a lot of ways since taking the Buckeye job.

I think he's learned from what he did wrong, in a number of areas, and that's the mark of a good coach, and usually a good person.
Not really a 180 with regards to this.
The Senior class he inherited at BG had been awful. He turned them around right away. 
He keeps a picture of that first BG senior class in his office to this day. 
When the two teams played last year, that entire class was on the sideline, and they were wearing OSU gear; rooting against their own alma matter out of loyalty to a coach that they barely even played for. 
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Re: Stirring the pot
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2017, 03:47:34 PM »
Not really a 180 with regards to this.
The Senior class he inherited at BG had been awful. He turned them around right away.
He keeps a picture of that first BG senior class in his office to this day.
When the two teams played last year, that entire class was on the sideline, and they were wearing OSU gear; rooting against their own alma matter out of loyalty to a coach that they barely even played for.

He is talking about the off-field stuff. You don't hear anything about kids getting in trouble at Ohio State like you did when he was at Florida. That is what made most of us so hesitant about his coming into the conference. So far it's been very clean.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2017, 05:40:44 PM »
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Re: Stirring the pot
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2017, 08:34:10 AM »
Urban Meyer appears to be doing things the right way in Columbus.  Obviously one could not say that about the cheating bastage Tressel and all his BS gimmicks.  Meyer has changed from Florida for the better.  Maybe he was always this way but got sucked into the cesspool in Florida?  Maybe he learned a lesson?  IDK.  Meyer was always an excellent football coach.
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2017, 09:19:04 AM »
I was really impressed with him when he was at BG and Utah. 

I wasn't very fond of his Florida run, for obvious reasons. 
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Re: Stirring the pot
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2017, 11:40:53 AM »
All you guys hated him when he was at Florida.

Just like all Michigan fans hated The Madman when he was at Stanford, after he dogged the education at Michigan.
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Re: Stirring the pot
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2017, 11:49:38 AM »
I didn't hate him, per se, because I had been a fan of his in the past. 

I was sad when he took the Florida job because I thought it meant he'd never coach the Buckeyes. 

Now did I openly admit that I didn't hate the man after he dressed down my Buckeyes? 
No. Of course not. Don't be ridiculous. 

I'd've been crucified by a pitch forked mob of my fire-breathing Buckeye brethren. 
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