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847badgerfan

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Re: Stadiums and Summaries
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2025, 11:11:51 AM »
Yeah, that's terrible.

I've checked into going to Vegas for a game/long weekend.

I asked her:

"Would you rather go to Vegas or take a luxury Mediterranean Cruise?"
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« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2025, 11:14:27 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 08, 2025, 11:53:29 AM
The Fiesta Bowl, as I understand it, is very boring. Having been in that area, I'd say that's the story. It was great when it was on the ASU campus, with all the bars and restaurants in Tempe. Now, not so much. That bowl can be displaced eventually.
This.  

I went the last year it was on the ASU campus and the first year it wasn't and the atmosphere was VASTLY better down on campus.  
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« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2025, 11:14:46 AM »
Yeah Vegas isn't really my thing.  It's been a couple of decades now since the last time I went.

I have a group of friends who make a guys' trip to Vegas every year.  They're always trying to get me to come with them and I tell them every time, "Y'all make it a trip to New Orleans and I'm there."  I just have no interest in spending any time or money going to Vegas.

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« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2025, 11:18:24 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on September 08, 2025, 11:48:49 AM
There are only 6 major bowls, and they comprise the CFP quarterfinals and semifinals.

Anything beyond that is, by definition, not even remotely major any more.
I get that but they could put in a bid for the NC.  

Also, if I were say, the head of the LV Convention and Visitors Bureau, I'd look to create the top or one of the top second-tier bowls.  I'd also specifically want the B1G and maybe the ACC.  I'd want colder-weather leagues so that a trip to Vegas in Dec/Jan would be a draw for weather as well as the game and Vegas.  I fully realize that with today's mega-conferences this could easily backfire with me getting USC but I'd still shoot for it.  
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« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2025, 11:23:09 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on September 09, 2025, 10:57:36 AM
The bigger headache is how much the Vegas Strip - specifically the Strip - has added or raised prices on everything. No more free parking at the casinos. The house raising blackjack odds from 3:2 to 6:5. Minimal to no more free drink service at the tables and slots.
It is shocking how much this changed.  My dad was stationed about half-way between LA and Vegas in the late-1950s and early 1960s.  He said that back then he and his buddies almost always chose Vegas over LA when they had leave because they couldn't afford LA.  In Vegas everything was cheap.  

He took our family in the early 1980s and it was still cheap even then.  I remember eating at a buffet that looked to be about a mile long for some insanely low price like maybe $0.25.  

Back when gambling was illegal in most of the US, I think that Vegas' bread-and-butter was a middle class generally blue-collar guy who liked to gamble and got a cheap flight and a cheap hotel there every year or two.  

Today, those guys maybe go to Vegas once in a lifetime.  They don't have to.  You can gamble in a LOT of places in the US so why bother with airfare?  

Vegas had to completely retune their image and draw and they did.  
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« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2025, 11:28:13 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on September 09, 2025, 11:18:24 AM
I get that but they could put in a bid for the NC. 

Also, if I were say, the head of the LV Convention and Visitors Bureau, I'd look to create the top or one of the top second-tier bowls.  I'd also specifically want the B1G and maybe the ACC.  I'd want colder-weather leagues so that a trip to Vegas in Dec/Jan would be a draw for weather as well as the game and Vegas.  I fully realize that with today's mega-conferences this could easily backfire with me getting USC but I'd still shoot for it. 
The Las Vegas Bowl has greatly upped its status, pitting the B1G, XII and SEC teams against each other. It used to be MWC, WAC, etc., against maybe a PAC school (maybe).
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Re: Stadiums and Summaries
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2025, 11:40:48 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on September 09, 2025, 11:18:24 AM
I get that but they could put in a bid for the NC. 

Also, if I were say, the head of the LV Convention and Visitors Bureau, I'd look to create the top or one of the top second-tier bowls.  I'd also specifically want the B1G and maybe the ACC.  I'd want colder-weather leagues so that a trip to Vegas in Dec/Jan would be a draw for weather as well as the game and Vegas.  I fully realize that with today's mega-conferences this could easily backfire with me getting USC but I'd still shoot for it. 
I'm sure they're putting in NC bids annually, and they'll host it eventually... But they (nor anyone else) well never be the annual host... It's going to be rotated like the Super Bowl. 

I don't know how you just elbow your way in to "one of the top second-tier bowls"... I feel like there's a certain level of historical momentum that is tough to overcome. It might be a 10+ year process to push that bowl up the priority chain to where fans feel it's a big boy second-tier bowl (talk about an oxymoron), and 10 years from now... I'm not sure anyone will care about bowls. That's what I meant about there no longer being such thing as a "major" bowl. Not to sound like MDot, but if it's not the CFP, it's dog shit. 

That said, I do get your point. And honestly, getting USC or UCLA probably isn't THAT bad of a deal. It's an easy drive or a short[/cheap] flight from LA. While it might be a let-down for USC, I'm pretty sure all 7 UCLA fans would take any bowl they could get right now. 
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Re: Stadiums and Summaries
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2025, 11:45:24 AM »
Bowls have bought their way into prominence, like the Peach Bowl has done.  It's considered a major, usually, now.  It was on the ropes for years back in the day.  Then it hit on having the ACC-SEC matchup, usually a decent one, and NYE, and attendance solidified, and then CFA bought in.  They paid more to the ACC team than the SEC team because it often was ACC #2 vs SEC #5 or 6.

It also snowed like crazy in one earlier year, it historically had really bad weather back in the day.
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« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2025, 12:13:03 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 09, 2025, 11:14:46 AM
Yeah Vegas isn't really my thing.  It's been a couple of decades now since the last time I went.

I have a group of friends who make a guys' trip to Vegas every year.  They're always trying to get me to come with them and I tell them every time, "Y'all make it a trip to New Orleans and I'm there."  I just have no interest in spending any time or money going to Vegas.
In 2021 I was recruiting a couple guys I knew really well and they  really wanted a trip to the Grand Canyon, so we used Vegas as a landing spot for a few days around the area and figured we would use Vegas for good food and good hotel. The good food part and hotel worked out, even though the hotel was insanely priced. Was easy to rent a car and make some awesome drives down through Kingman and then route 66. All that part was awesome.

Walking outside from hotel to hotel in Vegas, which we attempted 2 different days when we first got there and last day before we left was absurd. Couldn't walk one dang block without fury of party bus driving males and barely clothed female telling us we weren't real men unless we went to the men's club they wanted to cart us to. On top of that, the contact high of every human under the sun smoking up on the street was not my cup of tea. Was my third time to Vegas so I knew the underbelly of a lot of what goes on, but when you cant walk in front of the nice hotels any longer without getting high and getting rubbed up on by half clothes females not even half my age, they've pushed the limit a little too far. 
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Re: Stadiums and Summaries
« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2025, 12:16:23 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on September 09, 2025, 12:13:03 PM
In 2021 I was recruiting a couple guys I knew really well and they  really wanted a trip to the Grand Canyon, so we used Vegas as a landing spot for a few days around the area and figured we would use Vegas for good food and good hotel. The good food part and hotel worked out, even though the hotel was insanely priced. Was easy to rent a car and make some awesome drives down through Kingman and then route 66. All that part was awesome.

Walking outside from hotel to hotel in Vegas, which we attempted 2 different days when we first got there and last day before we left was absurd. Couldn't walk one dang block without fury of party bus driving males and barely clothed female telling us we weren't real men unless we went to the men's club they wanted to cart us to. On top of that, the contact high of every human under the sun smoking up on the street was not my cup of tea. Was my third time to Vegas so I knew the underbelly of a lot of what goes on, but when you cant walk in front of the nice hotels any longer without getting high and getting rubbed up on by half clothes females not even half my age, they've pushed the limit a little too far.
So... where was the complaint in all of this?


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Re: Stadiums and Summaries
« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2025, 12:18:32 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 09, 2025, 12:16:23 PM
So... where was the complaint in all of this?


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lol...now that I have two daughters, my mindset of that category shifted A LOT. I'm Bad Boys 2 motto of fatherhood.
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« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2025, 01:11:05 PM »
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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2025, 01:15:43 PM »
Huh, for some reason I thought El Azteca in Mexico City was over 100K. Googling tells me it's "only" 87K.

And man, Texas Memorial Stadium hasn't looked like that since 2008.
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« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2025, 01:31:33 PM »
Wow.. Never realized Beaver stadium was 2nd largest in the country. Honestly thought it was slightly smaller than the Shoe. 
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