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I think that’s why I have a sickness for cars. “Sporty“ means something different to everybody and a different set of characteristics for any given vehicle will make somebody feel very satisfied while driving it regardless of the reason.

Believe me, I understand and share your definition of "sporty".

I just know that having anything like that and driving it on the street is likely to subject me to legal troubles I'd prefer to avoid. Which is why if I got anything sporty, I'd prefer to have it be something track-worthy--because that's the only place I could actually drive it like it's designed to be driven.

Believe me, I understand and share your definition of "sporty".

I just know that having anything like that and driving it on the street is likely to subject me to legal troubles I'd prefer to avoid. Which is why if I got anything sporty, I'd prefer to have it be something track-worthy--because that's the only place I could actually drive it like it's designed to be driven.

That is why I like to have cars that can be driven very pleasurably every day and in traffic, but can be taken right onto a road course or a dragstrip with no modifications.  The Shelby GT500 ( just sold), the BMW X3M competition ( just sold), the CT4-V Blackwing( just acquired)and the AMGGT 63S ( just acquired) all fit into that category. 

and they really are not many vehicles that fit into that category. There are some cars that could be taken to a track but they will quickly suffer from brake fade and cooling issues.
and I’ve never had an interest in exotics like a Lamborghini for example.  Even if I could afford it it just never me it’s not my thing. 

I also have a Dodge ram pick up that I find very pleasurable to drive because it has a better ride than any car I’ve ever been in plus I can tow my boat, haul the dogs, take six or seven sets of golf clubs, etc. 

I've driven some of those old Brit sports cars, and handling was not their forte, in my view.  They were fun to drive nonetheless.  A Honda Accord today would out handle them handily.

And out accelerate, and of course leave them behind on any track.

Those old cars really are clunkers, 1965 Mustangs etc., clunkers.  But fun.

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I think I remember you needing over 10K of towing.  and therefore the 3/4 ton which isn't available anymore
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As with any such list, or ranking, well, you know ...  I find it amusing two of the ten are Cadillacs.  These guys lean pretty hard to performance of course.

The Car and Driver 10Best Cars of 2024:

• Acura Integra Type S*
• Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing
• Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray and Corvette E-Ray
• Honda Accord
• Honda Civic
• Lucid Air Pure*
• Porsche 718 Boxster and Cayman
• Subaru BRZ/Toyota GR86
• Toyota Prius*

(* denotes new to the list this year.)

The Car and Driver 10Best Trucks and SUVs of 2024:

• Chevrolet Trax*
• Ford Maverick
• Genesis GV70
• Honda CR-V
• Hyundai Ioniq 5
• Kia EV9*
• Kia Telluride
• Porsche Macan
• Ram 1500
• Toyota Grand Highlander*

(* denotes new to the list this year.)
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We have in and out service. They wash it when I bring it back and they put it to bed. No trailer. 

26' Cobalt SD. She'll hit 47/48 MPH. Plenty fast on the water.

Can't get a better bass boat than a Ranger. Kinda like Cobalt for a runabout.

Acceleration numbers probably are the most often examined figure for a sporty car, but I think even a pretty slow car can be sporty.  The old Brit sports cars have been mentioned.  The MGBs aside from some special production items were 0-60 in the 12 second range.

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I don't think any new car sold today is that slow.  A Nissan Versa is under or at 10 seconds.  It would not be sporty, at all.  My Hyundai is listed at 7.1 seconds, it's acceptable, but not sporty.  But we've discussed all this before at some length, the power of modern cars versus even 60s muscle cars.

To get 0-60 times around 3 seconds just about requires AWD or a rear/mid engine type even with sticky tires.

I was idly pondering which car type would be most fun to drive on a track, and it depends on whether the track is very tight or pretty open.  I think for a while anyway, on an open track like COTA or Road Atlanta something with enormous power would be a thrill for unaccomplished drivers (like me).

Then there is the "fun to drive" aspect on some mountain twisty road.  Here's where a slowish car with a manual might trump.